Haven't read through all the responses, but the calculated worldwide death rate is misleading. Different countries have different rates of testing and different metrics for reporting cases. Similarly, the numbers of deaths attributed to coronavirus are impacted by deaths that may actually be attributed to other causes where someone with an existing serious condition may have otherwise died anyway but happened to also contract coronavirus, as well as deaths for which coronavirus may have been the cause but has not been diagnosed. So the numbers can't just be averaged to give a meaningful worldwide result.
Posts by Jeffro
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by BourneIdentity inworldwide numbers – 13%.
deaths: 359,791. recovered: 2,399,247. active cases 3,044,378. we need to throw out the active cases in our calculations, as we don’t know if those people will survive or die.
deaths + recovered is 2,759,038. deaths/deaths + recovered = death rate.. 359,791/2,759,038 = 13%.
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--- the queen, prettiest "king of the south" you have ever seen!
by waton inwhen daniel was discussed in the cherished private home "book study", that was the slogan that had been coined:.
zenobia of palmyra, the queen, prettiest king of the south you have ver seen, sung to some ditty melody.
making, having fun then.
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Jeffro
Alas, as of the May 2020 Watchtower, Zenobia was never actually the 'king of the south'.
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The Great Crowd Fallacy
by Vanderhoven7 inthe great crowd of other sheep witnesses allegedly first began forming early on in the 20th century.
rutherford was totally unaware of this crowds existence until 1935. it was revealed to him in 1932 that the great crowd members were heaven-bound.
then light flashed from heaven in 1935 showing that this group was an earthly class.
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Jeffro
Doug Mason:
According to my rusty memory, the Book of Revelations says that the 144,000 are on earth -- that's why they need to be protected -- while the Great Crowd is before the throne (up in the sky?)
Yes, the Watch Tower Society's version of the "great crowd" and the "144,000" is completely backwards.
See What Does the Bible Really Teach… about the 144,000? (PDF)
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Ancient Hebrews Got Away With So Much
by Tim207 inwhy wasn’t judah punished for sleeping withtamar?
even though she had the legal right to an offspring by his family he still thought he was sleeping with a prostitute.
if it is wrong to even think of having relations with a woman similar to the “sin” of watching pornography why wouldn’t what judah did be wrong?
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Jeffro
Tim207:
Why wasn’t Judah punished for sleeping withTamar?
Apart from the story not being historical, it is set prior to the introduction of the Mosaic law, and apart from Judah's personal affront to her prostitution in the story, there is no indication in the Bible of a former prohibition against temple prostitutes (as which Tamar supposedly disguised herself).
Aside from that, the only prohibitions in the Mosaic law about prostitution are that fathers could not make their daughters prostitutes, priests could not marry prostitutes and their daughters could not be prostitutes, and temple prostitutes were forbidden. There is no prohibition at all against prostitutes generally, and prostitution was frowned upon but generally tolerated in Judea.
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Ancient Hebrews Got Away With So Much
by Tim207 inwhy wasn’t judah punished for sleeping withtamar?
even though she had the legal right to an offspring by his family he still thought he was sleeping with a prostitute.
if it is wrong to even think of having relations with a woman similar to the “sin” of watching pornography why wouldn’t what judah did be wrong?
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Jeffro
Half banana:
You have to remember that the Bible is mainly fiction. Moses, Abraham Isaac and Jacob did not exist, they are fiction.The twelve tribes did not exist, Most of Genesis is complete fiction. The Exodus is fiction. The conquering of Canaan is fiction. The early kings are fiction, historical kings begin with Hezekiah but the Bible's accounts of historical people are not necessarily true even then.
Mostly correct, except for comments about the kings prior to Hezekiah. There is attestation for various kings of Judah and Israel in extrabiblical sources, including well before Hezekiah. However, there is little to no evidence of David or earlier as historical characters. But as you point out, even for the characters that actually did exist, the versions of events in the Bible are littered with political and religious propaganda.
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When do the 2300 days begin?
by Kosonen inwhen to begin the countdown of the 2300 days?
to get an idea, it could be helpful to discern when those days end relative to time times and half a time.. i see a possibility that the 2300 days end the same day as the 1260 days.
that is because the woman in revelation 12 will be fed 1260 days.
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Jeffro
Phizzy:
Good to see your post young feller ! You've been away for a while ?
Thanks. I'm not on this site much these days, but I do check in from time to time. I'm often busy with work (as well as all that non-Internet type stuff in life).
If you're interested, click here for my overview of the book of Daniel. (Any comments made on that or any other page on the site are moderated, which means they will not appear straight away until I get the chance to review them. Spam is automatically blocked, and personal insults will not be approved, unless they amuse me.)
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When do the 2300 days begin?
by Kosonen inwhen to begin the countdown of the 2300 days?
to get an idea, it could be helpful to discern when those days end relative to time times and half a time.. i see a possibility that the 2300 days end the same day as the 1260 days.
that is because the woman in revelation 12 will be fed 1260 days.
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Jeffro
If people want to completely ignore the actual historical context of the book of Daniel, they can come up with any old numerological drivel. And when they do, it usually 'just happens' to 'point to' some time close to 'now', because 'reasons'.
Given the actual context of Daniel, the "2,300 days" (6.5 years) most likely refers to the period from Antiochus' appointment of a new Hellenised priest in Jerusalem in mid-171 BCE until the restoration of Jewish worship and rededication of the temple in December 165 BCE.
But why let logic get in the way of half-baked nonsense?
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Oz starting to shut down
by joey jojo inaustralia has closed gyms, churches, restaurants, pubs (oh no), beaches.
most state borders are now closed.
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Jeffro
WTWizard:
The one good thing about this is the churches (and Coronavirus Halls) closing down.
How long before the Watch Tower Society says that the World Health Organisation indirectly 'closing churches' is the UN's 'attack on false religion'? 🤣
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New Ezekiel Book Clarification
by johnamos inhttps://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/pure-worship/summary-of-clarifications/.
is christendom the antitype of ancient apostate jerusalem?.
previous understanding: unfaithful jerusalem is a prophetic type of christendom.
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Jeffro
To put it another way:
Because sometimes 'clarification' means 'the exact opposite of what we said before'.Is Christendom the antitype of ancient apostate Jerusalem?
Previous understanding: Yes.
Clarification: No.
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Another thought about WT 607 bull.
by Crazyguy inthe babylonian empire didn't start until assyria was finally defeated in 612 bc.
then as we know babylon supposedly destroyed jerusalem in 607 according to wt.
before jerusalem was destroyed babylon had taken jerusalem and taken prisoners including the king and deported them to babylon and then according to ezekiel at 33:21 twelve years into their captivity a man from jerusalem came and told him the city had been destroyed.. ok so how does jerusalem get conquered 12 years before 607 when the babylonians hadn't even become the major power yet??
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Jeffro
The JW dogma is, of course, wrong. But the problem with what you have stated above is that what actually occurred in 612 BCE is attributed - incorrectly - by JWs to the year 632 BCE.
Back in reality, Babylon conquered Assyria at Nineveh in 612 BCE, and Assyria's capital was moved to Harran. Harran was then conquered by Babylon in 609 BCE, at which point Assyria disappears from history.
For more information, see here.