Posts by Jeffro

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Fearmongering news on JW.ORG : Russia Invades Ukraine

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

russia invades ukraine.

in the early morning hours of february 24, 2022, russia began a military invasion of ukraine, despite the efforts of world leaders to avoid war.

how might this military conflict affect the world?

Jeffro

The book of Daniel foretold a rivalry between “the king of the north” and “the king of the south.” (Daniel 11:25-45) Watch the video Fulfilled Prophecy—Daniel Chapter 11 to learn why Russia and its allies can be identified as the king of the north.*

Nope. Nothing in Daniel has anything at all to do with Russia (or anything else happening now). See Daniel's dreams and visions and What Does the Bible Really Teach about Gog of Magog?

Jesus Christ foretold a time when “nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom.” (Matthew 24:7) Read the article “What Is the Sign of ‘the Last Days,’ or ‘End Times’?” to see how the Bible shows that wars today fulfill Jesus’ prophecy.

What JWs say about Jesus' 'presence' and the 'great tribulation' also contradicts what the Bible actually says. See What Does the Bible Really Teach about Jesus' Presence?

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So, which end times prophecy is it?!

by nowwhat? in

when all is quiet on the world scene, the jdubs say see!

they are about to to declare peace and security!

when tensions are high the jdubs point to the pushing of the kon and the kos and say see bible prophecy is being fulfilled!.

Jeffro

The JW website has added a page about the Ukraine invasion, claiming it relates to biblical prophecies. Their response amounts to self-serving drivel that is detached from reality.

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Philistine pronunciation

by road to nowhere in

the wt uses phi list ine.

the world says phil is tine.

i remember they had a pronunciation guide devised by a clergyman which is ok in as much as as we dont speak hebrew.

Jeffro

road to nowhere:

The WT uses phi LIST ine. The world says PHIL is tine.

It isn’t the case that Watch Tower uniquely says it a different way to ‘the world’. The pronunciation indicated above as “PHIL is tine” (/ˈfɪlɪstaɪn/, where ‘tine’ rhymes with ‘wine’) is the English pronunciation in most English speaking countries, and is also used in the US, but some United Stated dialects use “phi LIST ine” (/fɪˈlɪstin/).

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JWs don’t use the apocryphal, yet source them

by Anony Mous in

so a quick little note about a few things that i recently learned.

if you ever had the yellow book of bible stories, there was the story of enoch, also repeated in other watchtower publications, about the angels fathering giants and being a menace on earth.

now if you look at the nicean bible, which is the wtbts selection of the bible, it mentions enoch twice and only has a very brief passage about nephilim and ben elohim.

Jeffro

Sea Breeze:

The book of Jasher is referenced in the bible

The Bible does refer to a 'Book of Jasher/Jashar'. However, the actual content of the book is unknown.

There was a spurious 16th century version and another 18th century forgery that purport to be translations of the lost book. They quote from various biblical books to try to sound authentic.

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Do you think the big A will come after Russia invades Ukraine?

by Iamallcool in

jw
friends

any takers?

.

Jeffro

Fisherman:

I don’t think so because the book of Rev actually does speak about the future

So does Star Trek. It's still not actually a prophecy about the future.

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Do you think the big A will come after Russia invades Ukraine?

by Iamallcool in

jw
friends

any takers?

.

Jeffro

a watcher:

Ukraine has nothing to do with Armageddon.

Correct.

There are still many prophecies in Revelation that need to be fulfilled before Armageddon comes. I believe Armageddon is at least several years in the future.

🤦‍♂️No. Revelation was about cryptic references to events that affected early Christians under the Roman empire during the first and early second centuries. Relevance to anything now, or to the future, is exactly zero.

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Entire WT Library online

by admirmitch in

stumbled on this video online.

looks like the entire wt library is online and available via login access.

read some comments and presenter was a bethel insider so he had special access.

Jeffro

The other publications would also likely be available (internally) as update packages for the Windows-based Watchtower Library application…

For example, when using the Publications Index on that version, if you click any of the shorthand references to an old publication, it responds by saying that the full name of the publication isn’t available in the library. This indicates that the term is actually linked to the unavailable publication rather than it not being a link at all.

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Freaky, unsettling, unnerving comment from Losch in his AGM talk

by FFGhost in

did anybody else catch it?.

he said that people who come back in the earthly resurrection would be given a body "reasonably similar" to the one they had prior to death.. what the almighty hootch?.

"similar"?.

Jeffro

FFGhost:

He said that people who come back in the earthly resurrection would be given a body "reasonably similar" to the one they had prior to death.

Maybe ’paradise’ is located in Uncanny Valley.

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GB Says You Can Fellowship Without Being Reinstated

by Sea Breeze in

there is another way to fellowship with your loved ones after disagreeing with the wt besides getting reinstated.

all you have to do is fling yourself off a boat and start drowning, says watchtower:.

"suppose, then, a member of a christian congregation boating on a lake were to see another boat containing a disfellowshiped person capsize, throwing the disfellowshiped one into the water where he struggled to stay afloat.

Jeffro

The Watchtower, 15 November 1952, page 703:

Being limited by the laws of the worldly nation in which we live and also by the laws of God through Jesus Christ, we can take action against apostates only to a certain extent, that is, consistent with both sets of laws. The law of the land and God’s law through Christ forbid us to kill apostates, even though they be members of our own flesh-and-blood family relationship.

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GB Says You Can Fellowship Without Being Reinstated

by Sea Breeze in

there is another way to fellowship with your loved ones after disagreeing with the wt besides getting reinstated.

all you have to do is fling yourself off a boat and start drowning, says watchtower:.

"suppose, then, a member of a christian congregation boating on a lake were to see another boat containing a disfellowshiped person capsize, throwing the disfellowshiped one into the water where he struggled to stay afloat.

Jeffro

"Suppose, then, a member of a Christian congregation boating on a lake were to see another boat containing a disfellowshiped person capsize, throwing the disfellowshiped one into the water where he struggled to stay afloat. Could the Christian ignore that one’s peril, row away and feel free from guilt before God—inasmuch as the one in danger of drowning was disfellowshiped, viewed as “a man of the nations”? Certainly not. That would be cruel and inhumane."

From the same resplendent article:

But consider a less extreme situation. What if a woman who had been disfellowshiped were to attend a congregational meeting and upon leaving the hall found that her car, parked nearby, had developed a flat tire? Should the male members of the congregation, seeing her plight, refuse to aid her, perhaps leaving it up to some worldly person to come along and do so? This too would be needlessly unkind and inhumane. Yet situations just like this have developed, perhaps in all good conscience, yet due to a lack of balance in viewpoint.

So if the disfellowshipped (yes, Watch Tower, there's two Ps in that word) woman wants some attention from the congregation's "male members", she can just let her down her tyres rather than resorting to flinging herself off a boat.