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  January 2023 Study Watchtower - both sides of the mouth!

  by BoogerMan in

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  i've added to it in bold letters:.

  january 2023 study watchtower, page 20, pars.

  1 - 3.. almost 2,000 years ago, jesus gave his life in our behalf, opening the way for us to gain everlasting life.

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  Jeffro

  It’s interesting (?) that the January 2023 Watchtower gloats about the ‘record attendance’ for the 2021 Memorial. But no mention of attendance for 2022? Have they even released that figure yet (they were already boasting about the figure for 2021 in November of that year)? It was especially easy to ‘attend’ in 2021 and 2022 because no one had to even leave home, but it seems that maybe some lost interest (perhaps a result of no regular in-person meetings)? Unless they’re just keeping everyone in suspense about an even more ‘amazing’ attendance for this year?
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  New method to absolutely date Fall of Jerusalem.

  by waton in

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  for what it is worth to those interested.

  1914.. tel-aviv university.

  "biblical military campaigns reconstructed using geomagnetic field data.

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  Earnest:

  My intention is not to raise a debate about carbon 14 dating, but only to say it is not precise and if the curve of the archaeomagnetic intensity is strongly based on the carbon dating then that, too, is not fixed in stone.

  This would be a very valid point if the archaeomagnetic data and the Bayesian analysis thereof were based on a very small dataset and the researchers had no idea what they were doing.
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  New method to absolutely date Fall of Jerusalem.

  by waton in

  1. social
  2. current

  for what it is worth to those interested.

  1914.. tel-aviv university.

  "biblical military campaigns reconstructed using geomagnetic field data.

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  Fisherman:

  WT conclusions or interpretations are on what the scriptures mean, the best evidence for that is the ancient text.

  Wrong. WT conclusions ignore the plain reading of various Bible verses that directly contradict their interpretation. As such, the Watch Tower Society elevates itself above the Bible.
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  New method to absolutely date Fall of Jerusalem.

  by waton in

  1. social
  2. current

  for what it is worth to those interested.

  1914.. tel-aviv university.

  "biblical military campaigns reconstructed using geomagnetic field data.

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  Jeffro

  No. The curve for the archaeomagnetic intensity is based on a broader dataset than would be significantly affected just by changing the assumed date for the Beth-Shean event, and in particular is strongly based on carbon dating for the relevant period in the 10th century BCE.

  This research demonstrates how an archaeointensity curve constructed from a dense archaeomagnetic dataset in which the chronology rests on radiocarbon (for periods before the eighth century BCE) and firm historical ages (from the eighth century BCE and on) can be used as a powerful chronological tool.
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  New method to absolutely date Fall of Jerusalem.

  by waton in

  1. social
  2. current

  for what it is worth to those interested.

  1914.. tel-aviv university.

  "biblical military campaigns reconstructed using geomagnetic field data.

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  Jeffro

  The blue rectangle below indicates the range of archaeomagnetic intensity levels that would be expected for a site burned in 993 BCE. The red dot indicates the level that would be expected for the destruction of Beth-Shean if the Watch Tower Society's chronology were correct.
  

  

  It is a little disappointing that there is a need to explain how to interpret a chart in this thread, but there are others in the thread who are excited that some words are similar to other words, so... 🤷‍♂️
  
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  New method to absolutely date Fall of Jerusalem.

  by waton in

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  for what it is worth to those interested.

  1914.. tel-aviv university.

  "biblical military campaigns reconstructed using geomagnetic field data.

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  Rattigan350:

  1914 is not based on the fall of Jerusalem.

  It is more correctly based on an incorrect date assigned to the destruction of Jerusalem by the Babylonians in addition to other superstitious numerology.

  Just because Nelson Barbour thought it had to, does not mean that Jehovah God thought it did.

  🤦‍♂️ So you just need to establish that your preferred deity exists and that anything you claim about it is actually true. I think all of your work is still in front of you. 😂
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  New method to absolutely date Fall of Jerusalem.

  by waton in

  1. social
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  for what it is worth to those interested.

  1914.. tel-aviv university.

  "biblical military campaigns reconstructed using geomagnetic field data.

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  Earnest:

  Archaeomagnetic data says nothing about the date in itself, but can be used for establishing whether destruction events happened at the same time.

  Incorrect. The study applied the use of archaeomagnetic intensity data and other data to correlate the timing of burn sites, and that method does not establish the date itself. But the archaeomagnetic intensity data itself - represented by the shaded curving band in the graph - does invalidate 993 as a valid date for the destruction of Beth-Shean. Of course, I don’t need to rely on that fact though, because all the other evidence already establishes that the Watch Tower Society chronology is wrong.
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  New method to absolutely date Fall of Jerusalem.

  by waton in

  1. social
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  for what it is worth to those interested.

  1914.. tel-aviv university.

  "biblical military campaigns reconstructed using geomagnetic field data.

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  Jeffro

  Which means it definitely wasn’t in 993 BCE, which remains incompatible with the archaeomagnetic intensity data. 🤦‍♂️
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  New method to absolutely date Fall of Jerusalem.

  by waton in

  1. social
  2. current

  for what it is worth to those interested.

  1914.. tel-aviv university.

  "biblical military campaigns reconstructed using geomagnetic field data.

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  Jeffro

  Whilst it is true that the intensity of some of the archaeomagnetic levels used as anchors does not conclusively invalidate the dating offered by the Watch Tower Society, the dating for Beth-Shean does. The study says that event occurred around 900 BCE, but that would be 968 in Watch Tower Society chronology. Note that the levels that would be required for the Watch Tower Society's reckoning of the Tevet VII, Rehov V and Beth-Shean events fall well outside the higher band (yellowish shading) of the archaeomagnetic levels at that time.

  

  900 BCE is the latest date given for the "70-100" years before 830 offered by the study for the destruction of Beth-Shean, which it says was destroyed during the reign of Shoshenq (ruled 943-922 BCE). According to WTS chronology, Shoshenq reigned around 1011-990 BCE, and Insight (volume 1, page 304) says Beth-Shean was destroyed in 993 BCE - for which the archaeomagnetic intensity levels are even more wrong.
  
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  New method to absolutely date Fall of Jerusalem.

  by waton in

  1. social
  2. current

  for what it is worth to those interested.

  1914.. tel-aviv university.

  "biblical military campaigns reconstructed using geomagnetic field data.

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  Jeffro

  I already explained that Watch Tower Society chronology of earlier events diverges to 68 years at the beginning of the divided kingdom rather than simply remaining a difference of 20 years, which requires placement of various events that are inconsistent with results found by the geomagnetic dating method even if the anchor point were simply moved to 607.