Are they really so desperate for suitable people to operate audio equipment that it's become necessary for 12-year-olds to do it?? I suppose that's a better alternative to... gasp... a... woman doing it. đ˛
Posts by Jeffro
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112024-07-July-S-147 Announcements!
by Atlantis in2024-07-july-s-147 announcements!.
https://pdfhost.io/v/96mkpxpq1_untitled_1 .
grandpa!.
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Who told the first lie?
by nicolaou inthis is a continuation of the discussion which sprang from an unrelated topic.. so according to genesis, who told the first lie?
god told eve that if she ate from the tree of knowledge she would die that very same day.
in response to that statement the devil told her she would not die.. eve ate from the tree and did not die.
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Jeffro
enoughisenough:
The way I see it, you either believe the Bible or you don't.
Fallacy of composition, black and white thinking. âThe Bibleâ is a collection of various forms of literature. Much of it is entirely unhistorical while other parts contain historical details intermixed with superstition and political bias. There is, of course, no reason to believe that stories in Genesis are true, especially when theyâre obviously allegory.
The Bible also says something like,let God be found true, though every man a liar.
Well, if the Bible says it. đ¤Śââď¸
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Who told the first lie?
by nicolaou inthis is a continuation of the discussion which sprang from an unrelated topic.. so according to genesis, who told the first lie?
god told eve that if she ate from the tree of knowledge she would die that very same day.
in response to that statement the devil told her she would not die.. eve ate from the tree and did not die.
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MeanMrMustard:
that I definitely did not make up
Seemed legit. đ¤Ł
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Who told the first lie?
by nicolaou inthis is a continuation of the discussion which sprang from an unrelated topic.. so according to genesis, who told the first lie?
god told eve that if she ate from the tree of knowledge she would die that very same day.
in response to that statement the devil told her she would not die.. eve ate from the tree and did not die.
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Halcon:
Except God said
Yes, God told the lie. I know. Itâs not necessary to quote it again. After they ate the magical fruit, separate action had to be taken to prevent them accessing the other magical fruit as is directly stated in verses 22-24, rather than their death being âcertainâ.
Eve understood the same thing, repeating it back to the snake verbatim.
Yes, the story says Eve was told the lie as well, though it doesnât say whether she heard it directly from God or secondhand from Adam. But she certainly didnât hear it when it was said before she was⌠made from a rib. đ
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Who told the first lie?
by nicolaou inthis is a continuation of the discussion which sprang from an unrelated topic.. so according to genesis, who told the first lie?
god told eve that if she ate from the tree of knowledge she would die that very same day.
in response to that statement the devil told her she would not die.. eve ate from the tree and did not die.
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Jeffro
Halcon:
Here is Genesis chapter 2
You quoted verses 15-17, but unnamed rib-woman didnât even exist until verse 22.
The snake said the exact opposite thing as the words above..."you will not certainly die".
And, in the story, the snake was correct. It was not certain that eating from the tree of knowledge would result in death. It was only because access to the other tree was prevented that resulted in death. It is directly stated in the story.
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Who told the first lie?
by nicolaou inthis is a continuation of the discussion which sprang from an unrelated topic.. so according to genesis, who told the first lie?
god told eve that if she ate from the tree of knowledge she would die that very same day.
in response to that statement the devil told her she would not die.. eve ate from the tree and did not die.
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Jeffro
Halcon:
As you explained, thereafter God took away the tree of life...and both Adam and Eve died, just as God told them they would if they ate from the wrong tree.
Maybe youâre reading a different story. In the version I have, God doesnât tell Eve (who doesnât get a name until later in the story) anything about either tree, and only tells Adam about the tree of knowledge. The story doesnât state whether Eve is directly told by God about the tree of knowledge or whether itâs via Adam, but it doesnât say either are told about the tree of life. God tells Adam heâll die if he eats from the tree of knowledge, but isnât told that this was actually a threat about preventing access to the other magical tree rather than a property of the knowledge fruit itself. As presented in the story, the snake didnât lie when it said that eating the knowledge fruit doesnât itself cause death, nor does the story say whether the snake knew about the deceptive scheme to prevent access to the other magical tree. Death was caused by the capricious deity getting angry at the naive people for being naive and preventing access to a different magical tree, not at the moment of eating the magical fruit that gave them knowledge.
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August WT: DF'ing renamed "Removed." AKA: GB re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic
by WingCommander inso: the mystery has been clarified as to more "new light" / clarifications of decades old doctrine and procedure.
august watchtower has finally been leaked.
disfellowshipping?
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Jeffro
Indeed. Itâs more about what they can more likely get away with rather than actually caring about defaming people.
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Who told the first lie?
by nicolaou inthis is a continuation of the discussion which sprang from an unrelated topic.. so according to genesis, who told the first lie?
god told eve that if she ate from the tree of knowledge she would die that very same day.
in response to that statement the devil told her she would not die.. eve ate from the tree and did not die.
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Jeffro
KOW:
Star Wars, Harry Potter, and the folklore and myths and legends of my people the Jews, and not.
I suppose weâll have to shut down all the Star Wars and Harry Potter discussion forums too. Either that or theyâll have to all get degrees first.
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August WT: DF'ing renamed "Removed." AKA: GB re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic
by WingCommander inso: the mystery has been clarified as to more "new light" / clarifications of decades old doctrine and procedure.
august watchtower has finally been leaked.
disfellowshipping?
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NotFormer:
On the above basis announcing a disfellowshipment could be considered defamatory. It is certainly going to harm a person's reputation within the JW circle.
Precisely the same type of speculation results from the announcement that a person is âno longer one of Jehovahâs witnessesâ, but with less transparency.
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Who told the first lie?
by nicolaou inthis is a continuation of the discussion which sprang from an unrelated topic.. so according to genesis, who told the first lie?
god told eve that if she ate from the tree of knowledge she would die that very same day.
in response to that statement the devil told her she would not die.. eve ate from the tree and did not die.
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KalebOutWest:
Oh, for crying out loud! You are all a bunch of spoiled brats who want to promote your own ideas. You can't think outside your self-serving bubbles if you tried!
[Extended judgemental rant]OâŚK⌠looks like someone is angry anyway.
And if you really wanted to know the answer, you would stop arguing and go and get a degree in theology.
Thatâs right, the only two options are âdonât talk about it at allâ or âget a degree in theologyâ. Because how dare anyone else talk about something on a discussion forum. đ¤Śââď¸