Posts by Jeffro

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Who told the first lie?

by nicolaou in

this is a continuation of the discussion which sprang from an unrelated topic.. so according to genesis, who told the first lie?

god told eve that if she ate from the tree of knowledge she would die that very same day.

in response to that statement the devil told her she would not die.. eve ate from the tree and did not die.

Jeffro

KalebOutWest:

This is an example of "The Mandela Effect,"

Not really. The Mandela Effect refers to details that are widely misremembered, not simply a widespread incorrect belief that a mythical story is historical. (MMM didn’t say that God told them it was wrong, but only that it would be pointless to do so if they didn’t understand that anyway, so that wasn’t an example of the Mandela Effect in the scope of the narrative either. It’s just speculation about details that are not provided.)

Of course the rest of the point still holds aside from the semantics though.

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Who told the first lie?

by nicolaou in

this is a continuation of the discussion which sprang from an unrelated topic.. so according to genesis, who told the first lie?

god told eve that if she ate from the tree of knowledge she would die that very same day.

in response to that statement the devil told her she would not die.. eve ate from the tree and did not die.

Jeffro

nicolaou:

Don't waste your time Jeffro. God's lies are the theme of this topic so obfuscation is the least we can expect from his followers.

Oh I know. But he’s the foil, not the audience.

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Who told the first lie?

by nicolaou in

this is a continuation of the discussion which sprang from an unrelated topic.. so according to genesis, who told the first lie?

god told eve that if she ate from the tree of knowledge she would die that very same day.

in response to that statement the devil told her she would not die.. eve ate from the tree and did not die.

Jeffro

🤦‍♂️

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Who told the first lie?

by nicolaou in

this is a continuation of the discussion which sprang from an unrelated topic.. so according to genesis, who told the first lie?

god told eve that if she ate from the tree of knowledge she would die that very same day.

in response to that statement the devil told her she would not die.. eve ate from the tree and did not die.

Jeffro

What a load of nonsense. The chemistry is already understood (and if it weren’t, your position would still just be an argument from ignorance anyway). There’s no need for a sky wizard. And metabolism of cells has nothing to do with a ‘truer self’ (whatever that means). 🙄

Only theists claim that life arises from ‘scattered dust’.

Still no meaningful definition provided.

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Who told the first lie?

by nicolaou in

this is a continuation of the discussion which sprang from an unrelated topic.. so according to genesis, who told the first lie?

god told eve that if she ate from the tree of knowledge she would die that very same day.

in response to that statement the devil told her she would not die.. eve ate from the tree and did not die.

Jeffro

Halcon:

Hehe, you have a way of verifying if spirit matches up with my definition?

Well I said it’s unverifiable so obviously not. 🤦‍♂️ If your comprehension skills are this poor, it’s obvious why you got so many of the details wrong about the ‘Adam and Eve’ story. There’s no evidence for a deity and your prattle about a ‘truer self’ is esoteric drivel that doesn’t even relate to your first attempt at a definition. In reality ‘spirit’ is a superstitious placeholder for whatever nonsense the ‘believer’ feels like it is at the time.

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Who told the first lie?

by nicolaou in

this is a continuation of the discussion which sprang from an unrelated topic.. so according to genesis, who told the first lie?

god told eve that if she ate from the tree of knowledge she would die that very same day.

in response to that statement the devil told her she would not die.. eve ate from the tree and did not die.

Jeffro

Halcon:

Spirit is your truer self from the perspective of God.

That’s just unverifiable word salad.

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Has The "Evil Slave" Died Out?

by Sea Breeze in

those of us who have deep roots into watchtower remember the shadowy whispers about "the evil slave" when we were kids.. for those that need to get up to speed: .

the internal crisis came to its full with the occurrence of an outstanding bible-predicted event, namely, the coming of jehovah’s “messenger,” christ jesus, to jehovah’s temple for judgment in the spring of 1918, to separate the “faithful and discreet slave” class from the “evil slave” group.

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Jeffro

The ‘evil slave’ is a motif in a parable. So because it isn’t actually a thing that exists, it would be accurate to say it hasn’t died out.

299

Who told the first lie?

by nicolaou in

this is a continuation of the discussion which sprang from an unrelated topic.. so according to genesis, who told the first lie?

god told eve that if she ate from the tree of knowledge she would die that very same day.

in response to that statement the devil told her she would not die.. eve ate from the tree and did not die.

Jeffro

Still waiting for a meaningful definition of ‘spirit’.

Because the previous attempt was entirely asinine, it’s probably worth clarifying the difference between a definition and a function. If someone says a blurgle is hiding their socks, ‘the thing that hides socks’ is not a definition of ‘blurgle’. It’s just an argument from ignorance.

299

Who told the first lie?

by nicolaou in

this is a continuation of the discussion which sprang from an unrelated topic.. so according to genesis, who told the first lie?

god told eve that if she ate from the tree of knowledge she would die that very same day.

in response to that statement the devil told her she would not die.. eve ate from the tree and did not die.

Jeffro

Halcon:

The fact that you are asking for a definition of the word 'spirit' confirms you believe it exists.

🤦‍♂️ No, it only assumes that you believe it does

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Who told the first lie?

by nicolaou in

this is a continuation of the discussion which sprang from an unrelated topic.. so according to genesis, who told the first lie?

god told eve that if she ate from the tree of knowledge she would die that very same day.

in response to that statement the devil told her she would not die.. eve ate from the tree and did not die.

Jeffro

Halcon:

Spirit is what animates the physical elements (carbon, hydrogen etc) into a living human body.

Also, for the record, I’m not naive about the bait-and-switch in this distraction from the original vague intent of ‘spirit’ in the expression ‘mind, heart and spirit’.