KOW:
"horrible" words Jeffro has said in the past.
citation needed. But you may not like the actual order of events if you want to go down that path again...
Posts by Jeffro
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299Who told the first lie?
by nicolaou inthis is a continuation of the discussion which sprang from an unrelated topic.. so according to genesis, who told the first lie?
god told eve that if she ate from the tree of knowledge she would die that very same day.
in response to that statement the devil told her she would not die.. eve ate from the tree and did not die.
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Jeffro
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Who told the first lie?
by nicolaou inthis is a continuation of the discussion which sprang from an unrelated topic.. so according to genesis, who told the first lie?
god told eve that if she ate from the tree of knowledge she would die that very same day.
in response to that statement the devil told her she would not die.. eve ate from the tree and did not die.
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Jeffro
MMM:
Jeez Jeffro - the dude says he actually hates you. Wow. I mean, wow. What did you do to him?
Yes, he doesn’t like it if you dare to point out that he’s not 100% right. It’s a shame because I’m only really here for the popularity contest. 🤣
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Who told the first lie?
by nicolaou inthis is a continuation of the discussion which sprang from an unrelated topic.. so according to genesis, who told the first lie?
god told eve that if she ate from the tree of knowledge she would die that very same day.
in response to that statement the devil told her she would not die.. eve ate from the tree and did not die.
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Jeffro
KOW:
However this is not to say that the Western legal system is based on the Torah or the Bible. It is not. The Torah itself is not the inventor of the ideas and ideals found within its legal system, so one cannot even claim that in the purest sense.
Most importantly, and the salient point, the fact that case law texts include factual details about specific cases is not derived from the Bible’s inclusion of fanciful narratives.
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Who told the first lie?
by nicolaou inthis is a continuation of the discussion which sprang from an unrelated topic.. so according to genesis, who told the first lie?
god told eve that if she ate from the tree of knowledge she would die that very same day.
in response to that statement the devil told her she would not die.. eve ate from the tree and did not die.
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Jeffro
🤦♂️
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Who told the first lie?
by nicolaou inthis is a continuation of the discussion which sprang from an unrelated topic.. so according to genesis, who told the first lie?
god told eve that if she ate from the tree of knowledge she would die that very same day.
in response to that statement the devil told her she would not die.. eve ate from the tree and did not die.
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Jeffro
KOW:
The "snide little judgments" I learned from copying and pasting every comment you have made on this site into a computer.
And the "snide" comments you despise are generated via Google's Gemini AI.
They are actually based upon your very own.
Sure. 😒 If that were true, it would make you even more petty. Particularly since you’ve made the comments about people other than me.
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Who told the first lie?
by nicolaou inthis is a continuation of the discussion which sprang from an unrelated topic.. so according to genesis, who told the first lie?
god told eve that if she ate from the tree of knowledge she would die that very same day.
in response to that statement the devil told her she would not die.. eve ate from the tree and did not die.
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Jeffro
the people and culture who wrote the story.
Strictly speaking, it is a derivative work adapted from the Babylonians, and the Jewish interpretations have been added later and do not fully represent the intentions of the original story.
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Who told the first lie?
by nicolaou inthis is a continuation of the discussion which sprang from an unrelated topic.. so according to genesis, who told the first lie?
god told eve that if she ate from the tree of knowledge she would die that very same day.
in response to that statement the devil told her she would not die.. eve ate from the tree and did not die.
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Jeffro
That is why this has lasted so long on this forum. You can't decide whether God lied or not, not because God lied or didn't or because it is a myth or not, but because each of you here involved believe in different things when you use the word "God," even if you are atheist or agnostic.
By and large, most people in the thread have been talking about what the story actually says along with ‘in-universe’ speculation about the content of the story. It’s mainly been you that has strayed from that approach, albeit with mostly interesting material about the actual intent of the story (along with smatterings of judgemental condescension).
It’s not actually that useful to the original intent of the thread to point out that ‘God didn’t really tell the first lie because it’s just a story to teach a lesson’, which is just another layer of what you accused everyone else of doing. Which is fine. But don’t get high and mighty about it.
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Who told the first lie?
by nicolaou inthis is a continuation of the discussion which sprang from an unrelated topic.. so according to genesis, who told the first lie?
god told eve that if she ate from the tree of knowledge she would die that very same day.
in response to that statement the devil told her she would not die.. eve ate from the tree and did not die.
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Jeffro
They get nitpicky, like Jeffro, over the wrong points.
You can’t help yourself can you. These snide little judgements of people who point out any little thing you get wrong. Please stick to good content and just say those nonsense parts to yourself.
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Who told the first lie?
by nicolaou inthis is a continuation of the discussion which sprang from an unrelated topic.. so according to genesis, who told the first lie?
god told eve that if she ate from the tree of knowledge she would die that very same day.
in response to that statement the devil told her she would not die.. eve ate from the tree and did not die.
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Jeffro
🙄 And you were doing so well....Or that you give credit to.
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Who told the first lie?
by nicolaou inthis is a continuation of the discussion which sprang from an unrelated topic.. so according to genesis, who told the first lie?
god told eve that if she ate from the tree of knowledge she would die that very same day.
in response to that statement the devil told her she would not die.. eve ate from the tree and did not die.
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Jeffro
The claim that the practice of including ‘narratives’ in modern law books was adopted from the Mosaic Law (itself derived from Babylonian law and other early influences) is a simplification. Western legal systems have been developed through various influences, particularly Roman law and English common law. Stating the facts of specific cases in law books is more strongly tied to English common law rather than a direct or intentional adoption of Jewish tradition. The cases establishing case law refer to actual events rather than cautionary fictional tales. Also, the presence of the Ten Commandments in courtrooms or on state land is a reflection of cultural heritage rather than legal foundation. It is a frequent lie, especially in the US, that Western laws are ‘based on the Ten Commandments’. More than half of the Ten Commandments are not laws in the US, and the establishment clause of the US Constitution prohibits the first 4.