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  League of Nations as the disgusting thing that causes desolation

  by xaminewt in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  so, the organization says the “disgusting thing that causes desolation” in daniel 11:31 is the united nations being set up in 1945, but in daniel 12:11 when they interpret the 1,290 days they say it’s the league of nations in 1919. please could someone play devils advocate and tell why this could be anything but inconsistent?

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  Jeffro

  If you think those interpretations are nuts (and they are), have a look at their interpretation of the ‘2300 days’ in Daniel chapter 8. 🤦‍♂️
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  Do JWs believe Jesus is an angel?

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i would suggest:.

  the short answer is yes.. the longer answer is a qualified yes, with some caveats.

  the short answer is yes because jehovah’s witnesses teach that jesus is michael the archangel, their leader, eldest and most powerful, and have taught this since the very beginning of the religion.

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  Jeffro

  f I looked at scripture as you do Jeffro i would not care what Joe Shmoe had to say or intended?

  That makes no sense. Clearly you don’t understand how I look at scripture (a further unfounded assumption on your part) because I consider it in its historical and political context, which necessarily is concerned with what the authors intended.
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  Do JWs believe Jesus is an angel?

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i would suggest:.

  the short answer is yes.. the longer answer is a qualified yes, with some caveats.

  the short answer is yes because jehovah’s witnesses teach that jesus is michael the archangel, their leader, eldest and most powerful, and have taught this since the very beginning of the religion.

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  Jeffro

  You’re welcome to believe whatever you like. Not seeing any evidence for it though. Once you give a meaningful definition of ‘inspired’ I might reconsider my position. See also 1 Peter 3:15.
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  Atlantis- Devastating News

  by Newly Enlightened in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://youtu.be/k2hwesvuddq?si=7g6pvmqvcfh-cke4.

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  Jeffro

  The scanning of this JW crap is what exposed him to enough radiation to cause cancer?

  No. Non-ionising radiation from standard computer equipment doesn’t cause cancer. It was very irresponsible to spread that incorrect claim.
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  Do JWs believe Jesus is an angel?

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i would suggest:.

  the short answer is yes.. the longer answer is a qualified yes, with some caveats.

  the short answer is yes because jehovah’s witnesses teach that jesus is michael the archangel, their leader, eldest and most powerful, and have taught this since the very beginning of the religion.

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  Jeffro

  Do you believe the writer of Malachi was inspired...and by extention any of the writers of the Hebrew scriptures?

  Of course not. There isn’t even any clear definition of what ‘inspired’ actually means beyond a vague superstitious notion of ideas being communicated magically without any verifiable means of transmission.

  There’s a reason that the operative word is ‘believe’ because ‘inspiration’ in the sense intended can’t actually be demonstrated to exist.

  But if you have evidence to the contrary, I’m all ears.
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  Do JWs believe Jesus is an angel?

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i would suggest:.

  the short answer is yes.. the longer answer is a qualified yes, with some caveats.

  the short answer is yes because jehovah’s witnesses teach that jesus is michael the archangel, their leader, eldest and most powerful, and have taught this since the very beginning of the religion.

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  Jeffro

  Definitely the gospel writers affirm the Baptist is bring referred to.

  Christian writers ‘affirmed’ a Christian reinterpretation of vague writings. This is not slightly remarkable.

  Do you think there might be a dual fulfilment here?

  No. Of course not. Co-opting an old text and framing it around unverifiable anecdotes is not a ‘fulfilment’ of anything.
  
  
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  Do JWs believe Jesus is an angel?

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i would suggest:.

  the short answer is yes.. the longer answer is a qualified yes, with some caveats.

  the short answer is yes because jehovah’s witnesses teach that jesus is michael the archangel, their leader, eldest and most powerful, and have taught this since the very beginning of the religion.

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  Jeffro

  Malachi 3:1 mentions two messengers: The first is John the Baptist, who prepared the way for the second Messenger, "the Messenger of the covenant," Jesus Christ.

  Malachi doesn’t mention John the Baptist or Jesus. Those are just Christian reinterpretations.

  The author of Malachi (literally ‘messenger’) was likely Ezra rather than someone actually named ‘Malachi’, and Ezra is probably also the ‘messenger’ intended at Malachi 3:1.
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  Atlantis- Devastating News

  by Newly Enlightened in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://youtu.be/k2hwesvuddq?si=7g6pvmqvcfh-cke4.

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  Jeffro

  I was going to do another video talking about his position in Watchtower years ago, but not if I'm going to be called a liar

  Who called you a liar? You were only lying if you knew it wasn’t true. Otherwise it’s just irresponsible rather than dishonest. And it would have nothing to do with the other video you were thinking of making anyway. So that just sounds like a ploy to make people angry at me if they miss out on other content from you.
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  Do JWs believe Jesus is an angel?

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i would suggest:.

  the short answer is yes.. the longer answer is a qualified yes, with some caveats.

  the short answer is yes because jehovah’s witnesses teach that jesus is michael the archangel, their leader, eldest and most powerful, and have taught this since the very beginning of the religion.

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  Jeffro

  The verse from Malachi (whose name means angel or messenger, though no one says the book was written by an angel) doesn’t mention Christ or an anointed person, and obviously doesn’t mention Jesus.
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  Atlantis- Devastating News

  by Newly Enlightened in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://youtu.be/k2hwesvuddq?si=7g6pvmqvcfh-cke4.

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  Jeffro

  Newly Enlightened:

  I never mentioned a blood vessel erupting in my video. I never mentioned anything about blood coming out his eyes & nose YOU are the one disrespecting Atlantis & us.
  Also Atlantis was the one that told me it was from scanning. I don't know because I'm not a doctor.

  The type of non-ionising radiation from standard computer equipment does not cause tumours. It is speculative and sensationalist to publicly attribute scanning Watch Tower Society literature as the cause of a brain tumour..That was the misinformation you reported. Because you’re not a doctor, you shouldn’t be publishing speculation (even if from the unwell person) about the cause of a serious condition.

  I didn’t say that you mentioned a blood vessel. I correctly and quite clearly added that the other misinformation in another thread was also wrong