Posts by Jeffro

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Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

by jwundubbed in

i found out recently that michelangelo's painting of adam on the sistine chapel depicts him without a belly button.

i had never noticed this before and it makes sense that neither adam nor eve would have belly buttons, not having been born in the usual way.

then i realized all the first animals were created rather than born, according to the religious views of the origin of life.

Jeffro

See Breeze:

The non-Christian physicist Paul Davies

Fallacious appeal to authority (on top of the purported ploy that he’s ‘non-Christian’), since he isn’t a biologist. Analogies about ‘information’ are not evidence of ‘design’, and these chemical reactions in biological systems happen every second of every day without any need of magical sky friends. Systems become more complex over time rather than more simple so none of this is particularly compelling, and it remains a tedious argument from ignorance at its core.

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The evidence that fluoride lowers IQ is stronger than what was thought

by What-A-Coincidence in

fluoride action network.

http://www.fluoridealert.org.

fan bulletin 997: new video: vyvyan howard's toronto presentation.

Jeffro

Me earlier:

Unless fluoridation is the only thing that changed in the last 100 years, this doesn’t math.

(This was a cheap shot for comic effect, and the original comment referred to modern society in general rather than only fluoridation. However, it didn’t account for longer life expectancy and higher diagnosis rates also contributing to the increase in the number of deaths attributed to cancer rather than solely the ills of modern society. So it still doesn’t math.)

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The evidence that fluoride lowers IQ is stronger than what was thought

by What-A-Coincidence in

fluoride action network.

http://www.fluoridealert.org.

fan bulletin 997: new video: vyvyan howard's toronto presentation.

Jeffro

The amount of fluoride in community based water fluoridation is typically well below the levels associated with fluoride levels in studies affecting children’s IQ. Factors such as excessive TikTok use (ideally, none) are probably impacting children’s IQ levels more than fluoridation might.

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The evidence that fluoride lowers IQ is stronger than what was thought

by What-A-Coincidence in

fluoride action network.

http://www.fluoridealert.org.

fan bulletin 997: new video: vyvyan howard's toronto presentation.

Jeffro

Witness 007:

100 years ago the Cancer rate was 1 in 100 today it's 1 in 3 people will get Cancer.....do the math,

Unless fluoridation is the only thing that changed in the last 100 years, this doesn’t math. 🤣

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Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

by jwundubbed in

i found out recently that michelangelo's painting of adam on the sistine chapel depicts him without a belly button.

i had never noticed this before and it makes sense that neither adam nor eve would have belly buttons, not having been born in the usual way.

then i realized all the first animals were created rather than born, according to the religious views of the origin of life.

Jeffro

🤦‍♂️

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Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

by jwundubbed in

i found out recently that michelangelo's painting of adam on the sistine chapel depicts him without a belly button.

i had never noticed this before and it makes sense that neither adam nor eve would have belly buttons, not having been born in the usual way.

then i realized all the first animals were created rather than born, according to the religious views of the origin of life.

Jeffro

jwundubbed:

Anyway the idea that Adam and Eve and all the animals were created rather than born, still makes me wonder why no one tries to use that as an argument for why the chicken came first... from A religious point of view.

Various creationists have posited that the fully formed chicken was made first. But the more astute (but not very) creationists are forced to acknowledge that chickens as we know them were domesticated from a different species, so they (the creationists, not the chickens) say a different bird of the same ‘kind’ (a nonsense term with no distinct meaning in taxonomy) was fully formed but the chicken egg came before the domesticated chicken.

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Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

by jwundubbed in

i found out recently that michelangelo's painting of adam on the sistine chapel depicts him without a belly button.

i had never noticed this before and it makes sense that neither adam nor eve would have belly buttons, not having been born in the usual way.

then i realized all the first animals were created rather than born, according to the religious views of the origin of life.

Jeffro

ThomasMore:

VP Harris provides the philosophical answer: "So, when you think about it, there is great significance to the passage of time ...And there is such great significance to the passage of time when we think about a day in the life of our children."

Relevance to chicken and eggs: Zero. You posted irrelevant politically motivated nonsense.

Here is my take on where we are:
There are approx 334 million people in this great country.

Relevance to chickens and eggs: Zero. You explicitly made it a nationalist issue.

Now you have turned it into a Nationalist issue - a leap to be sure.

You brought up an irrelevant nationalist issue and now you’re complaining about being called out on it. You are not OK.

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The Question of the "Great Apostasy" and the Historical Continuity of Christianity

by aqwsed12345 in

1. the continuity and visibility of the church.

the true church must be continuous from the apostolic age.

there is no room in christianity for a "gap" or interruption of thousands of years during which true christianity ceased to exist and then was revived in the form of another movement.

Jeffro

That generation was a moving target almost as soon as it was written.

Yes, but the choice of the expression suggests an original time of writing within a generation of Jesus’ purported ministry and written shortly after actual events presented as ‘prophecy’ that were supposed to be soon followed by the spurious supernatural events that never occurred. But the ambiguity of the ‘prophetic’ elements serves to ‘keep the dream alive’ because they can be applied to just about any period with enough squinting.

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Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

by jwundubbed in

i found out recently that michelangelo's painting of adam on the sistine chapel depicts him without a belly button.

i had never noticed this before and it makes sense that neither adam nor eve would have belly buttons, not having been born in the usual way.

then i realized all the first animals were created rather than born, according to the religious views of the origin of life.

Jeffro

ThomasMore:

Jeffro - It was intended to be prattle so I am glad you got it, it seems that you took it personal.

What possible reason would I have for taking it personal(ly)? Biased media took a cheap shot at a politician in a foreign country, and you followed suit. It’s nothing new and not remotely interesting. (I do hope you realise the US is not actually the centre of the universe).

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The Question of the "Great Apostasy" and the Historical Continuity of Christianity

by aqwsed12345 in

1. the continuity and visibility of the church.

the true church must be continuous from the apostolic age.

there is no room in christianity for a "gap" or interruption of thousands of years during which true christianity ceased to exist and then was revived in the form of another movement.

Jeffro

However, this position contradicts the teachings of the Catholic Church, which holds that the sanctity of the Church does not depend on the moral state of its members.

No conflict of interest there. 🤣

However, these sins do not justify the broad generalization that every priest or the entire Church is guilty.

Oh goody, a straw man.🤦‍♂️

Can’t be bothered going through everything in that (yet another) rambling post. I guess ‘all Catholics’ must have a problem with being concise. 😒