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  WTS 2024 Annual Business Meeting ...

  by careful in

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  ... is just three weeks from this saturday.

  the org has been tight-lipped, really, successfully secret about advance info on these in recent years,.

  now that these relatively recent changes on dress and grooming, reporting fs time, judicial matters, etc.

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  FreeTheMasons:

  Wonder if they'll talk about their business

  JW Holdings is a Korean based health care company not related to Jehovah’s Witnesses.
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  The HLC do not pressure JWs

  by usualusername1 in

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  the hospital liaison committee (hlc) for jehovah’s witnesses does not pressure members to refuse blood transfusions.

  rather, their role is to support jehovah’s witnesses in adhering to their pre-existing religious beliefs, which include a strict prohibition against accepting blood transfusions based on their interpretation of biblical scriptures.. jehovah’s witnesses are well-informed about their stance on blood from an early age, and refusing blood is a deeply ingrained religious conviction, not something imposed during a medical crisis.

  the hlc’s purpose is to provide assistance in accessing bloodless treatment options, facilitating communication with healthcare providers, and helping ensure that the patient’s choices are respected.. while the hlc strongly supports adherence to the beliefs of jehovah’s witnesses, the ultimate decision remains with the individual.

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  usualusername1:

  Will never use ChatGPT again!

  That's a bit like saying you'll never use a phone again because you once dialed a wrong number. AI chatbots are only as good as the training data, which can contained biased information. The problem comes in not with ad hoc use of AI chatbots, but relying on non-trivial information without verifying it. This is the case for any information source, not just AI chatbots.
  

  Nobody really cares if you don't use ChatGPT.
  
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  The HLC do not pressure JWs

  by usualusername1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the hospital liaison committee (hlc) for jehovah’s witnesses does not pressure members to refuse blood transfusions.

  rather, their role is to support jehovah’s witnesses in adhering to their pre-existing religious beliefs, which include a strict prohibition against accepting blood transfusions based on their interpretation of biblical scriptures.. jehovah’s witnesses are well-informed about their stance on blood from an early age, and refusing blood is a deeply ingrained religious conviction, not something imposed during a medical crisis.

  the hlc’s purpose is to provide assistance in accessing bloodless treatment options, facilitating communication with healthcare providers, and helping ensure that the patient’s choices are respected.. while the hlc strongly supports adherence to the beliefs of jehovah’s witnesses, the ultimate decision remains with the individual.

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  Beth Sarim:

  What a JW does NOT know,,,,,or doesn't know if they don't know about the the Sheppard the Flock of God book,, is that if they do accept a transfusion is worst case scenario they will only be reprimanded or talked to and lose their privileges for a period of time.

  Not quite. It is true that if they are considered 'repentant' for accepting life saving medical treatment, then they might only be reprimanded. But the worst case scenario is that the person may be deemed to have 'disassociated by their actions' and subsequently shunned if the person is adamant that they made the right choice in accepting a blood transfusion.
  
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  The HLC do not pressure JWs

  by usualusername1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the hospital liaison committee (hlc) for jehovah’s witnesses does not pressure members to refuse blood transfusions.

  rather, their role is to support jehovah’s witnesses in adhering to their pre-existing religious beliefs, which include a strict prohibition against accepting blood transfusions based on their interpretation of biblical scriptures.. jehovah’s witnesses are well-informed about their stance on blood from an early age, and refusing blood is a deeply ingrained religious conviction, not something imposed during a medical crisis.

  the hlc’s purpose is to provide assistance in accessing bloodless treatment options, facilitating communication with healthcare providers, and helping ensure that the patient’s choices are respected.. while the hlc strongly supports adherence to the beliefs of jehovah’s witnesses, the ultimate decision remains with the individual.

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  Jehovah’s Witnesses are well-informed about their stance on blood from an early age

  That's a very telling statement. It's not really 'their stance', it is a stance dictated to them.
  
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  Jehovah's Witness Governing Body, (New Light Division) Are Vegetable Oils not more important than Beards?

  by was a new boy in

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  'use vegetable oil and soft margarine in place of animal fat,'.

  https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/101997444?q=vegetable+oil&p=par.

  'when possible, cook with unsaturated vegetable oils.'.

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  Yes let’s stick to what it says. You are trying to claim it doesn’t say what it actually does say.

  Huh? You're still on about this? The article, which was to promote WHO information as part of their obligation as an NGO associated with the UN in the 1990s, provided some diet advice from the WHO that seed oils might be preferable and that reducing egg yolk consumption can reduce cholesterol levels. Elements of the 'food pyramid' popularised in the 1990s have since been discredited by newer research, but they didn't know that at the time. Beyond that, you and the other conspiracy nutters are making things up.
  

  why are you trying to cover for the GB?

  Huh? If you imagine that, you're delusional. The dietary information wasn't 'made up by the governing body', the article just provided dietary advice of the time as provided by separate organisations.

  Do you think it’s good advice to replace butter with margarine?

  Margarine isn't plastic and it's not a government conspiracy. Eating unprocessed foods in moderation is generally better than excessive consumption, especially processed foods. I don't particularly care whether people prefer to eat butter or margarine, or their other dietary choices they make for themselves. Some people have health conditions that make their dietary decisions more important for them, for various reasons. I have no control or responsibility over them. I'll eat whatever I like, and you can feel free to do the same.

  do you think it’s correct all those things they say?

  "all those things they say" is pretty open ended. Are you still talking about the diet articles (which provided recommendations from the World Health Organisation), or is this some slippery slope into a tedious black-and-white thinking fallacy? (You don't need to answer that, I don't care.)
  
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  Jehovah's Witness Governing Body, (New Light Division) Are Vegetable Oils not more important than Beards?

  by was a new boy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  'use vegetable oil and soft margarine in place of animal fat,'.

  https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/101997444?q=vegetable+oil&p=par.

  'when possible, cook with unsaturated vegetable oils.'.

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  They clearly did encourage heating the oils to very high temps which is what is really harmful for seed oils. If you don’t heat them then some seed oils are not too harmful like good raw olive oil.
  they clearly did insinuate that egg yolks are bad for you.

  Because who cares about what the article actually said when you can just claim they said other stuff. 🤷‍♂️
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  Sorcery = Pharmakeia

  by KerryKing in

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  rev18:23 '....you deceived the nations with your sorceries'.. the interlinear for sorceries reads pharmakeia.. bible hub has some interesting definitions, i'll try to share screenshots below.

  the gist of it is that sorcery involves drugs/medicines/poisons, with or without spells, sorcery is not the same as witchcraft or divination, or white/black magic.

  i have long wondered about the connection between the medical/pharmaceutical industry's symbol of the serpent wrapped around a pole/stake, and the use of the word pharmaceuticals/pharmacy.. considering the common use of fluoride in public drinking water, nsaids with side effects such as depression, brain fog, dizziness, and opioids, mrna gene therapy, vaccines and so on, i wonder am i going mad, are these all coincidences??

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  Good grief
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  Sorcery = Pharmakeia

  by KerryKing in

  1. watchtower
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  rev18:23 '....you deceived the nations with your sorceries'.. the interlinear for sorceries reads pharmakeia.. bible hub has some interesting definitions, i'll try to share screenshots below.

  the gist of it is that sorcery involves drugs/medicines/poisons, with or without spells, sorcery is not the same as witchcraft or divination, or white/black magic.

  i have long wondered about the connection between the medical/pharmaceutical industry's symbol of the serpent wrapped around a pole/stake, and the use of the word pharmaceuticals/pharmacy.. considering the common use of fluoride in public drinking water, nsaids with side effects such as depression, brain fog, dizziness, and opioids, mrna gene therapy, vaccines and so on, i wonder am i going mad, are these all coincidences??

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  I'm a little confused as to why you sound so angry

  No, not angry, just to the point. If you think I’m ‘angry’, that’s a reflection of your own biases and a deflection from objectivity.

  but I genuinely hope you find peace in life.

  I don’t need to ‘find peace’, but thanks all the same.
  
  
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  Sorcery = Pharmakeia

  by KerryKing in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  rev18:23 '....you deceived the nations with your sorceries'.. the interlinear for sorceries reads pharmakeia.. bible hub has some interesting definitions, i'll try to share screenshots below.

  the gist of it is that sorcery involves drugs/medicines/poisons, with or without spells, sorcery is not the same as witchcraft or divination, or white/black magic.

  i have long wondered about the connection between the medical/pharmaceutical industry's symbol of the serpent wrapped around a pole/stake, and the use of the word pharmaceuticals/pharmacy.. considering the common use of fluoride in public drinking water, nsaids with side effects such as depression, brain fog, dizziness, and opioids, mrna gene therapy, vaccines and so on, i wonder am i going mad, are these all coincidences??

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  Jeffro

  Not sure how many facepalms I should put in one thread. But that deserves one. 🤦‍♂️

  I don’t subscribe to Preterism. Just reality.

  But feel free to provide actual evidence for your superstitious alternatives
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  Sorcery = Pharmakeia

  by KerryKing in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  rev18:23 '....you deceived the nations with your sorceries'.. the interlinear for sorceries reads pharmakeia.. bible hub has some interesting definitions, i'll try to share screenshots below.

  the gist of it is that sorcery involves drugs/medicines/poisons, with or without spells, sorcery is not the same as witchcraft or divination, or white/black magic.

  i have long wondered about the connection between the medical/pharmaceutical industry's symbol of the serpent wrapped around a pole/stake, and the use of the word pharmaceuticals/pharmacy.. considering the common use of fluoride in public drinking water, nsaids with side effects such as depression, brain fog, dizziness, and opioids, mrna gene therapy, vaccines and so on, i wonder am i going mad, are these all coincidences??

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  🤦‍♂️