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  Insight Book LIES - then tells the TRUTH!

  by BoogerMan in

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  it-1 p. 493 communication - "when the circumcision issue was resolved by the governing body in jerusalem......".

  it-1 p. 881 galatians, letter to the - "by reason of a revelation, paul, with barnabas and titus, went to jerusalem regarding the circumcision issue; he learned nothing new from james, peter, and john, but they recognized that he had been empowered for an apostleship to the nations.

  " (galatians 2:1-10).

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  Jeffro

  ‘scholar’:

  Thus when he refers to a period pertaining to Neb then that must be accounted for if one wishes to construct an authentic chronology of the period.

  But you can’t.

  There is no need as it lacks chronological detail for the purpose of Bible Chronology but cannot be ignored by advocates of Neo - Neo-Babylonian chronology as it was a historical event. during the reign of Neb.

  It seems poor doofus doesn’t understand that the total duration of Nebuchadnezzar’s reign (including any spurious 7 years of insanity) is the same in the JW chronology as it is in the actual chronology (necessitated by the Bible’s identification of Jehoiachin’s release from prison), though the JW chronology moves it 20 years earlier and messes up the order of events at the beginning of his reign. So the only way to ‘account for the seven years’ in any meaningful way is to specify a range of years, otherwise someone (if they believed it was a real period) could just assert that the 7 years of insanity was ‘some time after 587 BCE’.
  
  
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  169

  Insight Book LIES - then tells the TRUTH!

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it-1 p. 493 communication - "when the circumcision issue was resolved by the governing body in jerusalem......".

  it-1 p. 881 galatians, letter to the - "by reason of a revelation, paul, with barnabas and titus, went to jerusalem regarding the circumcision issue; he learned nothing new from james, peter, and john, but they recognized that he had been empowered for an apostleship to the nations.

  " (galatians 2:1-10).

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  Jeffro

  The book of Daniel is not a story but that of history and prophecy written by a witness to the events of the Neo-Babylonian Period who lived through the 70 years.

  To borrow your own phrasing,‘ if this was the case then a literal interpretation of Daniel would be universally endorsed by current scholarship.’ 🤣

  https://jeffro77.wordpress.com/daniels-dreams-and-visions/

  Thus when he refers to a period pertaining to Neb then that must be accounted for if one wishes to construct an authentic chronology of the period.

  And yet you can’t account for it. 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂😂
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  Insight Book LIES - then tells the TRUTH!

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it-1 p. 493 communication - "when the circumcision issue was resolved by the governing body in jerusalem......".

  it-1 p. 881 galatians, letter to the - "by reason of a revelation, paul, with barnabas and titus, went to jerusalem regarding the circumcision issue; he learned nothing new from james, peter, and john, but they recognized that he had been empowered for an apostleship to the nations.

  " (galatians 2:1-10).

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  Jeffro

  ‘scholar’:

  The fact is that Daniel refers to a period during Neb's reign in which he was vacant from the throne. This period is accepted to be a literal seven years that must be factored in any scheme of Neb's reign for Chronology. The period must be inserted after Neb's 19 th year-607 BCE and before the end of his reign so you have much to play with.

  Restating the claim made in the story is not a valid response to the question. It just reminds us that you don’t understand the period or context in which Daniel was written. But the point is well made… you have no stable chronology of the neo-Babylonian period.

  586 or 587 BCE are bogus dates for the Fall of Jerusalem. Since 1975 when A.K.Grayson published his translation of BM 21946 scholars remain uncertain about which date either 586 or 587 is correct. Currently, the said scholar would propose that it is an even split between both candidates. Further, confusion remains about the methodology surrounding such a contention.

  And you’re wrong.

  https://jeffro77.wordpress.com/2022/11/17/586-or-587/
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  Insight Book LIES - then tells the TRUTH!

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it-1 p. 493 communication - "when the circumcision issue was resolved by the governing body in jerusalem......".

  it-1 p. 881 galatians, letter to the - "by reason of a revelation, paul, with barnabas and titus, went to jerusalem regarding the circumcision issue; he learned nothing new from james, peter, and john, but they recognized that he had been empowered for an apostleship to the nations.

  " (galatians 2:1-10).

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  jhine:

  Okay Jeffro l will clear off 🤣🤣.

  You’re welcome to stay, but it’s rather odd when people go to a thread just to say they aren’t interested in the subject. I’m not remotely interested in knitting but I’m not going to go to a knitting club just to tell them knitting is a waste of time.
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  169

  Insight Book LIES - then tells the TRUTH!

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it-1 p. 493 communication - "when the circumcision issue was resolved by the governing body in jerusalem......".

  it-1 p. 881 galatians, letter to the - "by reason of a revelation, paul, with barnabas and titus, went to jerusalem regarding the circumcision issue; he learned nothing new from james, peter, and john, but they recognized that he had been empowered for an apostleship to the nations.

  " (galatians 2:1-10).

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  Jeffro

  Back on the original purpose of this thread, which seems to have been derailed from the first reply...

  Boogerman:

  it-1 p. 881 Galatians, Letter to the ... According to the Bible, (which never implies let alone mentions a "governing body") the apostle Paul was used to resolve the circumcision issue.

  Insight is in good ('bad') company with the Bible for its dishonest presentation of events about Paul.

  According to Paul's conversion story in Acts chapter 9 (conveniently written after Paul's death), after his 'vision' of Jesus and while still blinded, he is found by Ananias in Damascus where he remains for some time (but not years), and then went to see the disciples in Jerusalem. But in Paul's version in Galatians, he "did not immediately consult with any human" (and explicitly not those in Jerusalem) and instead went off to Arabia (Galatians 1:16-17), only going to Damascus after that, and not going to Jerusalem until 3 years later (Galatians 1:18).
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  169

  Insight Book LIES - then tells the TRUTH!

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it-1 p. 493 communication - "when the circumcision issue was resolved by the governing body in jerusalem......".

  it-1 p. 881 galatians, letter to the - "by reason of a revelation, paul, with barnabas and titus, went to jerusalem regarding the circumcision issue; he learned nothing new from james, peter, and john, but they recognized that he had been empowered for an apostleship to the nations.

  " (galatians 2:1-10).

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  Jeffro

  The seven years of Neb are presented as the seven times or seen years in Dan 4.

  That is not an answer to the question that was asked. Typical vapid misdirection. Which specific seven years?

  The identity of the WT researchers is not disclosed but sincere inquirers could write to WT for further information.

  🤣😂😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣🤣😂🤣
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  169

  Insight Book LIES - then tells the TRUTH!

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it-1 p. 493 communication - "when the circumcision issue was resolved by the governing body in jerusalem......".

  it-1 p. 881 galatians, letter to the - "by reason of a revelation, paul, with barnabas and titus, went to jerusalem regarding the circumcision issue; he learned nothing new from james, peter, and john, but they recognized that he had been empowered for an apostleship to the nations.

  " (galatians 2:1-10).

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  Jeffro

  ‘scholar’:

  There are no facts that clearly establish 587 as opposed to 586 BCE for if this was the case then 587 nBCE would be universally endorsed by current scholarship.

  587 BCE is actually the preferred dating in scholarship since the publication of BM 21946, and no analysis of the primary texts since then supports 586 BCE. But aside from that, the cognitive dissonance is astounding coming from someone who accepts the JW nonsense about 607 BCE.
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  169

  Insight Book LIES - then tells the TRUTH!

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it-1 p. 493 communication - "when the circumcision issue was resolved by the governing body in jerusalem......".

  it-1 p. 881 galatians, letter to the - "by reason of a revelation, paul, with barnabas and titus, went to jerusalem regarding the circumcision issue; he learned nothing new from james, peter, and john, but they recognized that he had been empowered for an apostleship to the nations.

  " (galatians 2:1-10).

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  Jeffro

  😂😂🤣🤣😂🤣😂😂🤣😂

  Notice how the tedious apologist continues to ignore the actual facts provided that demonstrate his claims to be false.
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  169

  Insight Book LIES - then tells the TRUTH!

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it-1 p. 493 communication - "when the circumcision issue was resolved by the governing body in jerusalem......".

  it-1 p. 881 galatians, letter to the - "by reason of a revelation, paul, with barnabas and titus, went to jerusalem regarding the circumcision issue; he learned nothing new from james, peter, and john, but they recognized that he had been empowered for an apostleship to the nations.

  " (galatians 2:1-10).

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  Jeffro

  Note that ‘scholar’ did not address these requests for specific information:

  • the actual range of 7 years you’re referring to.
  • the identities of the “researchers” who the Watch Tower Society says analysed the lunar eclipse observations in VAT 4956.
    

  He also did not respond to the actual facts that confirm Jerusalem’s destruction in 587 BCE or the details of the solstice referenced in VAT 4956.

  Instead he made vague trite appeals to tradition, religious dogma, and fallacious appeals to authority.

  Pathetic.

  I used Cartes du Ciel to check all the observations of VAT 4956. 588 BCE is not a valid candidate.

  See page 17 of Divided Kingdom Timeline and page 20 of JW Timeline.
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  Insight Book LIES - then tells the TRUTH!

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it-1 p. 493 communication - "when the circumcision issue was resolved by the governing body in jerusalem......".

  it-1 p. 881 galatians, letter to the - "by reason of a revelation, paul, with barnabas and titus, went to jerusalem regarding the circumcision issue; he learned nothing new from james, peter, and john, but they recognized that he had been empowered for an apostleship to the nations.

  " (galatians 2:1-10).

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  Jeffro

  🤣🤣😂🤣 😂🤣😂😂🤣😂🤣