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  Insight Book LIES - then tells the TRUTH!

  by BoogerMan in

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  it-1 p. 493 communication - "when the circumcision issue was resolved by the governing body in jerusalem......".

  it-1 p. 881 galatians, letter to the - "by reason of a revelation, paul, with barnabas and titus, went to jerusalem regarding the circumcision issue; he learned nothing new from james, peter, and john, but they recognized that he had been empowered for an apostleship to the nations.

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  Jeffro

  🤦‍♂️ there’s no helping the wilfully ignorant 🤣
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  179

  Insight Book LIES - then tells the TRUTH!

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it-1 p. 493 communication - "when the circumcision issue was resolved by the governing body in jerusalem......".

  it-1 p. 881 galatians, letter to the - "by reason of a revelation, paul, with barnabas and titus, went to jerusalem regarding the circumcision issue; he learned nothing new from james, peter, and john, but they recognized that he had been empowered for an apostleship to the nations.

  " (galatians 2:1-10).

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  Vidqun:

  Not sure about the "prophetic year" concept, but working exclusively on Biblical data, there is a clear correspondence between Daniel's calender and that of John in Revelation.

  360 is a convenient shorthand for the length of a year as 360 has 24 factors, and is evenly divisible by 10 of the first 12 positive integers. Revelation borrows from Daniel and Ezekiel, so it’s nothing remarkable that it uses that trope. The rounding of the length of a year to 360 days is ultimately taken from Babylonian usage.
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  179

  Insight Book LIES - then tells the TRUTH!

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it-1 p. 493 communication - "when the circumcision issue was resolved by the governing body in jerusalem......".

  it-1 p. 881 galatians, letter to the - "by reason of a revelation, paul, with barnabas and titus, went to jerusalem regarding the circumcision issue; he learned nothing new from james, peter, and john, but they recognized that he had been empowered for an apostleship to the nations.

  " (galatians 2:1-10).

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  ‘scholar’:

  COJ makes only an indirect reference to the 586/587 controversy through a footnote.

  haha. He finally admits that he lied about my analysis of 586/587 BCE being copied from COJ. Now go and actually read the words instead of just gawking at the ‘pretty charts’. https://jeffro77.wordpress.com/2022/11/17/586-or-587/
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  179

  Insight Book LIES - then tells the TRUTH!

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it-1 p. 493 communication - "when the circumcision issue was resolved by the governing body in jerusalem......".

  it-1 p. 881 galatians, letter to the - "by reason of a revelation, paul, with barnabas and titus, went to jerusalem regarding the circumcision issue; he learned nothing new from james, peter, and john, but they recognized that he had been empowered for an apostleship to the nations.

  " (galatians 2:1-10).

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  ‘scholar’:

  A prophetic year is described in the Bible and I refer you to its usage in Rev. 11: 2,3: 12:6, 14; and Ezek.4: 5 Dan.12:11; FOR its equivalent 'times'.

  Meh. A ChatGPT response is more than he deserves… (but see also https://jeffro77.wordpress.com/index/pure-worship-ezekiel-revisited/#390Days).

  The claim asserts that a “prophetic year” is described in the Bible and references several verses to support this concept. Let’s assess the validity of this claim by examining the context of these passages.

  
  

  1. Revelation 11:2-3 & 12:6, 14

  • Revelation 11:2-3: These verses mention 42 months and 1,260 days as equivalent time periods.

  • Revelation 12:6, 14: Verse 6 states that the woman fled for 1,260 days, while verse 14 describes the same event as “a time, times, and half a time” (often interpreted as 3.5 years).

  
  

  Since 42 months = 1,260 days, and 1,260 days = 3.5 years, this suggests a year in this context is assumed to be 360 days long (1,260 ÷ 3.5 = 360), often referred to as a “prophetic year.”

  
  

  2. Ezekiel 4:5

  • This verse is part of Ezekiel’s symbolic action, where God tells him to lie on his side for 390 days to represent the years of Israel’s sin.

  • Ezekiel 4:6 explicitly establishes a day-for-a-year principle: “I have appointed thee each day for a year.”

  
  

  However, this does not explicitly define a prophetic year of 360 days. Instead, it establishes a symbolic equation where a day represents a year in certain prophetic contexts.

  
  

  3. Daniel 12:11

  • This verse refers to 1,290 days, which is slightly longer than the 1,260-day period.

  • It is not directly equated to “times” in this passage, so it does not directly support the claim that a “prophetic year” is described as 360 days long.

  
  

  Assessment of the Claim

  • The 360-day prophetic year concept does have some biblical basis, particularly in Revelation 11-12, where 1,260 days and 42 months align with 3.5 years.

  • Ezekiel 4:5-6 establishes a day-for-a-year principle but does not explicitly define a prophetic year’s length.

  • Daniel 12:11 introduces a different time period (1,290 days) that does not fit neatly into the 360-day prophetic year model.

  
  

  Conclusion

  
  

  The claim that a “prophetic year” is explicitly described in the Bible is partially supported by some verses in Revelation, which use a 360-day year. However, Ezekiel 4:5 and Daniel 12:11 do not directly support this concept. The claim is overstated in suggesting that all the cited verses consistently define a prophetic year.

  
  
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  179

  Insight Book LIES - then tells the TRUTH!

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it-1 p. 493 communication - "when the circumcision issue was resolved by the governing body in jerusalem......".

  it-1 p. 881 galatians, letter to the - "by reason of a revelation, paul, with barnabas and titus, went to jerusalem regarding the circumcision issue; he learned nothing new from james, peter, and john, but they recognized that he had been empowered for an apostleship to the nations.

  " (galatians 2:1-10).

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  ‘scholar’:

  You have made this claim before, but if this is correct, does your analysis of 586 or 587 BCE mirror COJ's thesis? If not, could you list or explain where you differ?

  I haven’t closely considered COJ’s work. Which is kind of the point. I read some of his book online in 2015. I’m not aware that he makes any specific argument of 587 BCE over 586 BCE, and whether he has is unrelated to the logical sequence of premises I have laid out at https://jeffro77.wordpress.com/2022/11/17/586-or-587/.

  But because you are a dishonest coward, you will continue to ignore the content and just prattle on with the same old empty drivel that you’ve done for years.
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  179

  Insight Book LIES - then tells the TRUTH!

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it-1 p. 493 communication - "when the circumcision issue was resolved by the governing body in jerusalem......".

  it-1 p. 881 galatians, letter to the - "by reason of a revelation, paul, with barnabas and titus, went to jerusalem regarding the circumcision issue; he learned nothing new from james, peter, and john, but they recognized that he had been empowered for an apostleship to the nations.

  " (galatians 2:1-10).

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  Jeffro

  Notice how the apologist refuses to engage with the material.

  But the words must mean something and all that you have written is simply a rehash of GTR with pretty coloured charts.

  My analysis of 586 or 587 is not addressed in GTR, and my other pages were compiled before I’d even heard of GTR. (And the words still “mean something” irrespective of your false claim about GTR, if you’re not so dumb that you can’t get past the ‘pretty colours’.) So you’re just further demonstrating that you’re a liar. You’re entirely intellectually dishonest, and you’re afraid to directly consider information that challenges your predetermined beliefs. But other readers can see your blustering and your refusal to consider information presented.
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  179

  Insight Book LIES - then tells the TRUTH!

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it-1 p. 493 communication - "when the circumcision issue was resolved by the governing body in jerusalem......".

  it-1 p. 881 galatians, letter to the - "by reason of a revelation, paul, with barnabas and titus, went to jerusalem regarding the circumcision issue; he learned nothing new from james, peter, and john, but they recognized that he had been empowered for an apostleship to the nations.

  " (galatians 2:1-10).

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  ‘scholar’:

  The said scholar has at least a couple of degrees whereas all that you have are some pretty coloured charts.

  I know you like the pretty colours, but you have to actually read the words too.

  What’s the point of boasting about alleged degrees if you can’t even properly parse information.
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  179

  Insight Book LIES - then tells the TRUTH!

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it-1 p. 493 communication - "when the circumcision issue was resolved by the governing body in jerusalem......".

  it-1 p. 881 galatians, letter to the - "by reason of a revelation, paul, with barnabas and titus, went to jerusalem regarding the circumcision issue; he learned nothing new from james, peter, and john, but they recognized that he had been empowered for an apostleship to the nations.

  " (galatians 2:1-10).

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  ‘scholar’:

  The jokes on you for the said scholar is no joker.

  Some typos there. Fixed it for you:

  The joke’s on you for the sad joker is no scholar.
  
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  179

  Insight Book LIES - then tells the TRUTH!

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it-1 p. 493 communication - "when the circumcision issue was resolved by the governing body in jerusalem......".

  it-1 p. 881 galatians, letter to the - "by reason of a revelation, paul, with barnabas and titus, went to jerusalem regarding the circumcision issue; he learned nothing new from james, peter, and john, but they recognized that he had been empowered for an apostleship to the nations.

  " (galatians 2:1-10).

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  Jeffro

  It’s hilarious how ‘scholar’ just puts his fingers in his ears and ignores any attempt of dealing with actual material presented.
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  179

  Insight Book LIES - then tells the TRUTH!

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it-1 p. 493 communication - "when the circumcision issue was resolved by the governing body in jerusalem......".

  it-1 p. 881 galatians, letter to the - "by reason of a revelation, paul, with barnabas and titus, went to jerusalem regarding the circumcision issue; he learned nothing new from james, peter, and john, but they recognized that he had been empowered for an apostleship to the nations.

  " (galatians 2:1-10).

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  Jeffro

  The book of Daniel is about one thing and that is God's kingdom.

  A trite Watch Tower Society lie (but inherited from its Protestant origins). The entire book of Daniel mentions a future kingdom of God only 2 times, and 7 of the 12 chapters don’t mention God’s kingdom at all.