a recent thread about this week's study of the watch tower society's god's word for us through jeremiah led me to decide to review how much of the bible book of jeremiah is actually considered in that publication.. unlike other watch tower society verse-by-verse considerations of some bible books, their jeremiah book instead purports to impart lessons 'for us'.
key scriptures in jeremiah contradict jw doctrine, so a verse-by-verse approach was out of the question, probably having learned from their daniel and isaiah efforts that expose problems with jw interpretations.. one good feature of the watchtower library on cd-rom is you can search for a scripture, then find all the search occurences for where that scripture has been cited in jw publications, which made the process much easier.. in god's word for us through jeremiah, much of the bible book of jeremiah is ignored altogether.
in fact, less than half of the bible book is mentioned at all, and only 16% of jeremiah is actually quoted (including portions with the instruction to "read" the cited verses.
St George of England:
The last time they tried to explain Jer 25:12 as far as I can remember is this twaddle from 1979:-
Yep. They haven't been game to even quote Jeremiah 25:12 since then. They've cited it since then (almost always as part of a longer passage), but that verse is not discussed in any detail. No need to ask why that is.
a recent thread about this week's study of the watch tower society's god's word for us through jeremiah led me to decide to review how much of the bible book of jeremiah is actually considered in that publication.. unlike other watch tower society verse-by-verse considerations of some bible books, their jeremiah book instead purports to impart lessons 'for us'.
key scriptures in jeremiah contradict jw doctrine, so a verse-by-verse approach was out of the question, probably having learned from their daniel and isaiah efforts that expose problems with jw interpretations.. one good feature of the watchtower library on cd-rom is you can search for a scripture, then find all the search occurences for where that scripture has been cited in jw publications, which made the process much easier.. in god's word for us through jeremiah, much of the bible book of jeremiah is ignored altogether.
in fact, less than half of the bible book is mentioned at all, and only 16% of jeremiah is actually quoted (including portions with the instruction to "read" the cited verses.
slimboyfat:
It looks like they gave up around chapter 40.
Yeah. I noticed that when I was compiling the data. I think they realised they were getting close to their page limit or something. Maybe they could have focused more on the rest of Jeremiah if they didn't use a whole chapter to quash any lingering ambition 'faithful' JWs might have left.
Jeremiah is a notoriously jumbled book of the Bible, and has an extremely complicated textual history, that even real Bible scholar find difficult to grapple with.
Indeed. Much of what is in the modern book was added and/or edited much later than the traditional time of writing.
The Septuagint version is also significantly different, and appears to be closer to an earlier original text. 'Co-incidentally' it is less specific about various things, such as the '70 years'.
to the aussies out there what do you think of the government policy to send asylum seekers to png and have them settle there if they are proven to be refugees and if not to be sent home or to a third country.
i believe this policy will definately stop the boats.
barry.
mP, you'll notice that I said, " Their method of arrival would not be the determining factor", and not, "Hey 'boat people', you can all stay at my place."
a recent thread about this week's study of the watch tower society's god's word for us through jeremiah led me to decide to review how much of the bible book of jeremiah is actually considered in that publication.. unlike other watch tower society verse-by-verse considerations of some bible books, their jeremiah book instead purports to impart lessons 'for us'.
key scriptures in jeremiah contradict jw doctrine, so a verse-by-verse approach was out of the question, probably having learned from their daniel and isaiah efforts that expose problems with jw interpretations.. one good feature of the watchtower library on cd-rom is you can search for a scripture, then find all the search occurences for where that scripture has been cited in jw publications, which made the process much easier.. in god's word for us through jeremiah, much of the bible book of jeremiah is ignored altogether.
in fact, less than half of the bible book is mentioned at all, and only 16% of jeremiah is actually quoted (including portions with the instruction to "read" the cited verses.
Julia Orwell:
It will be interesting to read the scriptures which have been totally silenced in this publication. That Jeremiah book is a thinly veiled book of Mao Thought.
More than likely, at least some of the omissions, are simply because the content is just too boring, even by JW standards.
You can bet that the inconvenient bits are left out deliberately though.
i was talking with a jw i've known a long time and the topic of da new order came up.
she mentioned how nice it will be when all animals are at peace.
i asked why they had camouflage and defensive and offensive weapons if they were to always get along?
I got bored and stopped reading about a third of the way through.
Good catch regarding the NWT's translation of Genesis 3:6.
a recent thread about this week's study of the watch tower society's god's word for us through jeremiah led me to decide to review how much of the bible book of jeremiah is actually considered in that publication.. unlike other watch tower society verse-by-verse considerations of some bible books, their jeremiah book instead purports to impart lessons 'for us'.
key scriptures in jeremiah contradict jw doctrine, so a verse-by-verse approach was out of the question, probably having learned from their daniel and isaiah efforts that expose problems with jw interpretations.. one good feature of the watchtower library on cd-rom is you can search for a scripture, then find all the search occurences for where that scripture has been cited in jw publications, which made the process much easier.. in god's word for us through jeremiah, much of the bible book of jeremiah is ignored altogether.
in fact, less than half of the bible book is mentioned at all, and only 16% of jeremiah is actually quoted (including portions with the instruction to "read" the cited verses.
Comatose:
it is funny they leave out the chapter regarding the 70 yrs.
They don't leave out the chapter altogether, just the most inconvenient verse.
They do also distort the context of Jeremiah 29:10 though.
a recent thread about this week's study of the watch tower society's god's word for us through jeremiah led me to decide to review how much of the bible book of jeremiah is actually considered in that publication.. unlike other watch tower society verse-by-verse considerations of some bible books, their jeremiah book instead purports to impart lessons 'for us'.
key scriptures in jeremiah contradict jw doctrine, so a verse-by-verse approach was out of the question, probably having learned from their daniel and isaiah efforts that expose problems with jw interpretations.. one good feature of the watchtower library on cd-rom is you can search for a scripture, then find all the search occurences for where that scripture has been cited in jw publications, which made the process much easier.. in god's word for us through jeremiah, much of the bible book of jeremiah is ignored altogether.
in fact, less than half of the bible book is mentioned at all, and only 16% of jeremiah is actually quoted (including portions with the instruction to "read" the cited verses.
Brother of the Hawk:
all I did was refer to a scripture that shows it's God who destroys Babylon the Great
Hmmm... that's quite a change from:
Either you beleive the bible or not you cannot have it both ways!!!
Oh well, whatever works for you.
a recent thread about this week's study of the watch tower society's god's word for us through jeremiah led me to decide to review how much of the bible book of jeremiah is actually considered in that publication.. unlike other watch tower society verse-by-verse considerations of some bible books, their jeremiah book instead purports to impart lessons 'for us'.
key scriptures in jeremiah contradict jw doctrine, so a verse-by-verse approach was out of the question, probably having learned from their daniel and isaiah efforts that expose problems with jw interpretations.. one good feature of the watchtower library on cd-rom is you can search for a scripture, then find all the search occurences for where that scripture has been cited in jw publications, which made the process much easier.. in god's word for us through jeremiah, much of the bible book of jeremiah is ignored altogether.
in fact, less than half of the bible book is mentioned at all, and only 16% of jeremiah is actually quoted (including portions with the instruction to "read" the cited verses.
Brother of the Hawk:
Either you beleive the bible or not you cannot have it both ways!!!
Ah, that old cliche. That conclusion, of course, relies on the magical belief that 'the Bible' must be all true or all false.
'The Bible' is a collection of a bunch of books written (and subsequently edited) by different people over a long period of time that were arbitrarily selected by some dead guys from the 4th century as 'inspired' (whatever that means) to the exclusion of a bunch of other books.
Back in reality, parts of 'the Bible' relate to actual history and others don't. Those that do are heavily influenced by the political and theological beliefs of the writers.
However, the purpose of this thread was not to claim that everything in Jeremiah necessarily happened as stated, but that the Watch Tower Society publication about the Bible book doesn't cover the entire book.
The next time you wish to blast someone for useing a scripture in Revelation, think twice. Dude.
Even parts of Revelation relate to actual history, albeit abstractly. However, it was about the Jewish Christians' view of the Romans, and not about anything now. Dude.
a recent thread about this week's study of the watch tower society's god's word for us through jeremiah led me to decide to review how much of the bible book of jeremiah is actually considered in that publication.. unlike other watch tower society verse-by-verse considerations of some bible books, their jeremiah book instead purports to impart lessons 'for us'.
key scriptures in jeremiah contradict jw doctrine, so a verse-by-verse approach was out of the question, probably having learned from their daniel and isaiah efforts that expose problems with jw interpretations.. one good feature of the watchtower library on cd-rom is you can search for a scripture, then find all the search occurences for where that scripture has been cited in jw publications, which made the process much easier.. in god's word for us through jeremiah, much of the bible book of jeremiah is ignored altogether.
in fact, less than half of the bible book is mentioned at all, and only 16% of jeremiah is actually quoted (including portions with the instruction to "read" the cited verses.
clarity:
Wow whata nifty chart Jeffro .... looks like you did a lot of work on this.
Thanks.
I did a lot of counting.
Excel did the adding up and the pretty colours.
a recent thread about this week's study of the watch tower society's god's word for us through jeremiah led me to decide to review how much of the bible book of jeremiah is actually considered in that publication.. unlike other watch tower society verse-by-verse considerations of some bible books, their jeremiah book instead purports to impart lessons 'for us'.
key scriptures in jeremiah contradict jw doctrine, so a verse-by-verse approach was out of the question, probably having learned from their daniel and isaiah efforts that expose problems with jw interpretations.. one good feature of the watchtower library on cd-rom is you can search for a scripture, then find all the search occurences for where that scripture has been cited in jw publications, which made the process much easier.. in god's word for us through jeremiah, much of the bible book of jeremiah is ignored altogether.
in fact, less than half of the bible book is mentioned at all, and only 16% of jeremiah is actually quoted (including portions with the instruction to "read" the cited verses.
I thought it particularly funny that the only chapter (Jeremiah chapter 45) they are told to read in full - albeit only five verses - merits an entire chapter of their own book. Apparently too many JWs are "seeking great things". Like 'higher education'. Or thinking they're 'anointed'.
