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  Who is your favorite "Apostate"? Who helped you see the truth about "The Truth"?

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  i would have to say that ray franz was the biggest influence for me.. when i first got on this board, a poster by the name of james, a former bethelite and organization heavy, helped me understand a lot of the inner workings in the upper echelons of the society.. .

  and of course, farkel's common sense approach was (usually) helpful..

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  2+2=5

  Larsinger58. The memories.

  Memories I'd rather repress.
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  Who is your favorite "Apostate"? Who helped you see the truth about "The Truth"?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i would have to say that ray franz was the biggest influence for me.. when i first got on this board, a poster by the name of james, a former bethelite and organization heavy, helped me understand a lot of the inner workings in the upper echelons of the society.. .

  and of course, farkel's common sense approach was (usually) helpful..

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  My favourite posters would probably be AnnOMaly and Leolaia.

  I can't say I like 'scholar', but he's probably also (inadvertently) done a great deal to help people learn "the truth about the Truth".
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  Aust. Election in 1 week - A review of Kevin Rudd, PM

  by fulltimestudent in

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  i'm still determined not to vote - just to write something unpleasant about pollies on the ballot paper.

  if i lived in victoria, i just may, as an act of sheer bastardry, vote for julian assange (of wikileaks fame), but i don't live in vic, so i cant.. my objection to voting is that the political choice offers two self-perpetuating oligarchies (who are something like the governing body).

  they make up a slate of candidates and election advertising consists of attempting to persuade swinging voters to vote for their slate of candidates.. anyway, i noted that k.rudd has made a video in chinese, aimed apparently at mainland china.

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  mP:

  Theres no shame in being on welfare, i only asked a simple q. i have observed that many people who vote for KR, are on welfare and love the bonuses that have recently come their way.

  I knew exactly what you were up to. Another narrow-minded stereotypical jab. It didn't work.

  A real insult would be to buy an MSCE online.

  See. We can agree on something.
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  For lurkers and newbies who think Jehovah`s Witnesses are better people than most

  by smiddy in

  1. watchtower
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  why dont you look up on the internet crimes comitted by jehovah`s witnesses , i think you will be very surprised.the majority of cases are comitted by dedicated baptised witnesses , not newly interested ones that you can excuse away.and the crimes range from anything minor to outright murder .. and remember ,jehovahs witnesses are only a minority religion and yet crimes comitted by them far outstrip the national average.. i`m sorry i cant put up the links .i`d appreciate it if someone can .thanks heaps.. smiddy.

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  smiddy:

  And remember ,Jehovahs Witnesses are only a minority religion and yet crimes comitted by them far outstrip the national average.

  I'm not so sure that the crime rate among JWs 'far outstrips the national average'. Many crimes don't get reported in the media at all. Of those that are, the religious affiliation of the criminal is generally not reported. But when a crime is committed by a person who is a member of a novel or conspicuous group, both the crime and the religious affiliation are more likely to be reported.

  That said, there may be a tendency for certain types of crimes to be committed more often among JWs compared to the rest of society. Problems such as domestic violence and sexual assault are less likely to be reported to secular authorities by JWs because of the negative repute such reports might bring on the 'organisation'. When these are left unreported, they may escalate to even more serious violent crimes, either by the abuser, or in retaliation by the victim (I'm not talking about self-defence).

  Because of the repressive nature of the religion, there may also be a greater than average tendency for those who feel pressured to conform to eventually 'snap'. There may also be some correlation among some new recruits to commit crimes due to the fact that people are more likely to join a high-control group when they are facing difficulties in their life such as substance abuse or emotional trauma.

  (If it were up to me, I would also include withholding medical care on religious grounds as a crime. Unfortunately, it's not up to me.)
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  The WT study yesterday

  by molybdenum in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ( apologies for the large space at the top i don't quite know why .

  i sat through the wt study that dealt with all the new understanding.. the conductor started by by saying .

  well we wont spend too much time on what we used to believe, we will consider what we believe now.. i took a look round to see how the members of the congregation were reacting to this.. nothing.... .

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  molybdenum:

  ( Apologies for the large space at the top I don't quite know why )

  Your post is formatted with mostly non-breaking spaces, and seems to be within a table cell. The resultant block can't be displayed in line with the area for ads at the top-right of the page, so it's getting pushed down. Perhaps you copied your text from another program, or from something you had already posted to a different website?

  I took a look round to see how the members of the congregation were reacting to this.
  Nothing....

  Disappointing. But not surprising. Most JWs will just lap it up like nothing significant has changed.
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  Aust. Election in 1 week - A review of Kevin Rudd, PM

  by fulltimestudent in

  1. social
  2. current

  i'm still determined not to vote - just to write something unpleasant about pollies on the ballot paper.

  if i lived in victoria, i just may, as an act of sheer bastardry, vote for julian assange (of wikileaks fame), but i don't live in vic, so i cant.. my objection to voting is that the political choice offers two self-perpetuating oligarchies (who are something like the governing body).

  they make up a slate of candidates and election advertising consists of attempting to persuade swinging voters to vote for their slate of candidates.. anyway, i noted that k.rudd has made a video in chinese, aimed apparently at mainland china.

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  mP:

  Are you on welfare, do you recieve money from the gov in some form ?

  No, you arrogant insulting prick.

  I have an IQ well above average, and I'm a network administrator.
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  Aust. Election in 1 week - A review of Kevin Rudd, PM

  by fulltimestudent in

  1. social
  2. current

  i'm still determined not to vote - just to write something unpleasant about pollies on the ballot paper.

  if i lived in victoria, i just may, as an act of sheer bastardry, vote for julian assange (of wikileaks fame), but i don't live in vic, so i cant.. my objection to voting is that the political choice offers two self-perpetuating oligarchies (who are something like the governing body).

  they make up a slate of candidates and election advertising consists of attempting to persuade swinging voters to vote for their slate of candidates.. anyway, i noted that k.rudd has made a video in chinese, aimed apparently at mainland china.

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  smiddy:

  I don`t think you can become a billionaire by being a stark raving looney , he maybe a bit eccentric ,

  It's a fine line. But a great deal of what he says is just plain wrong. And that's after you get past his apparent inability to speak English.
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  Aust. Election in 1 week - A review of Kevin Rudd, PM

  by fulltimestudent in

  1. social
  2. current

  i'm still determined not to vote - just to write something unpleasant about pollies on the ballot paper.

  if i lived in victoria, i just may, as an act of sheer bastardry, vote for julian assange (of wikileaks fame), but i don't live in vic, so i cant.. my objection to voting is that the political choice offers two self-perpetuating oligarchies (who are something like the governing body).

  they make up a slate of candidates and election advertising consists of attempting to persuade swinging voters to vote for their slate of candidates.. anyway, i noted that k.rudd has made a video in chinese, aimed apparently at mainland china.

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  fulltimestudent:

  The new 'wild card' in Aussie politics [Clive Palmer]

  Wild? Or stark raving loony?
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  Who is your favorite "Apostate"? Who helped you see the truth about "The Truth"?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i would have to say that ray franz was the biggest influence for me.. when i first got on this board, a poster by the name of james, a former bethelite and organization heavy, helped me understand a lot of the inner workings in the upper echelons of the society.. .

  and of course, farkel's common sense approach was (usually) helpful..

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  Jeffro

  I don't have a favourite 'apostate', and I don't identify with JW pejoratives.

  I helped myself to see the truth about JW doctrines.
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  Thoughts on Jesus' Resurrection

  by Perry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i think that in our various discussions about life after the wt, we many times forget about the cornerstone of christian life - the resurrection.

  the implications of the existence a man who holds the power of life and death is manifold.

  it makes discussions about the existence of god obsolete.. for all of scientists' accomplishments they have never been able to make even one amobea come alive from non-life.

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  It's a serious indictment on human civilization that there are still people who believe in magical zombies.