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  Solomon's Temple construction, things you realize when no longer asleep.

  by Crazyguy in

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  ok so in 1kings chapters 5-6 is where we have the story of the construction of solomon's most holy temple to god, the supreme god.

  it says that to build this magnificent temple they used 30,000 men, 10,000 per month.

  another 70,000 common laborers in the hills digging up stone and 80,000 stone cutting laborers.

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  hoser:

  The other thing if could not figure was how long did it take to walk to the outside of the camp of Israelites to take a dump? There was supposed to be a few million that left Egypt It would be a long walk if you really had to go bad.

  The simple answer is that the 'exodus'' never happened. Aside from the story being obviously fanciful, there is no evidence at all of the Jews wandering in the desert for 40 years.

  The claim that there were millions of Jews is also overstated (speculatively given as 3 million in JW literature). Even by the time of the Babylonian exile, the figures recorded at 2 Kings 24:14 and Jeremiah 52:28-30 show that the population was much lower.
  
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  Solomon's Temple construction, things you realize when no longer asleep.

  by Crazyguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  ok so in 1kings chapters 5-6 is where we have the story of the construction of solomon's most holy temple to god, the supreme god.

  it says that to build this magnificent temple they used 30,000 men, 10,000 per month.

  another 70,000 common laborers in the hills digging up stone and 80,000 stone cutting laborers.

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  According to the story, initially provided for the temple were 100,000 talents of gold and 1,000,000 talents of silver, in addition to even greater amounts of bronze, iron, wood and stone (1 Chronicles 22:14). A talent = about 34kg, so that's 3,400 tons of gold and 34,000 tons of silver, plus the other materials. Gold is 19.3g per cubic cm, and silver is 10.49g per cubic cm, meaning 176 cubic metres of gold, and 3241 cubic metres of silver. (If the gold and silver were actually either alloyed or contained impurities, the density would be lower so the volume would be even more.) David then supplies an additional 102 tons of gold and 238 tons of silver (1 Chronicles 29:3, 4). The 'princes' supply another 170 tons of gold, 340 tons of silver, 610 tons of bronze and 3,400 tons of iron (1 Chronicles 29:6-7). The temple was supposedly 60 cubits long, 20 cubits wide and 30 cubits high (1 Kings 6:2, 3). A cubit is about 44cm, so the volume of the temple (excluding the 'portico') was about 3067 cubic metres. Even if the main part of the temple were a *solid block of silver*, there would still be silver left over to put 'on top' of the 'portico', which would be a *solid block of gold* over 4.5 metres high. And there's no room for the copper and iron and stone and wood, which would have to go somewhere else.
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  Participate In The EX-JW Personality Test!

  by C0ntr013r in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  first of all; i must admit that i'm not a huge fan of putting people in boxes like this, it is not an exact science.

  but i still think the data can be quite interesting and i intend to collect it and share it in a structured way with you guys.

  so without future ado here are the details.. link to test: .

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  ISTJ.
  

  There may be some correlation between certain personality types and the propensity to be un/convinced by superstitious beliefs such as those of JWs. It's somewhat less likely that being raised in a particular religion would cause a change of personality type.
  
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  Anybody have any "REAL" experiences of spirit/demon activity? I'll explain.

  by runForever in

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  2. friends

  i know there is a lot of people on here that will say it is pure make believe but i am interested if anybody has had any real concrete things happen such as something moving or something appearing in the mirror etc.. anything just post it up here even if it wasn't much.

  please give a little context as to the situation..

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  Island Man:

  A dog some great distance away at "ground zero" (too far away to be in your hearing) heard the sound of an ambulance siren or some other sound produced by some kind of equipment or machinery. The sound of this equipment or machinery was interpreted by the dog as being the sound or howl produced by a very large and vicious alpha male threatening to attack.

  Indeed. And you know what also sometimes generates noise resembling howls... wind. It is unremarkable that howling wind might set off dogs howling. Nothing to see here.
  
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  The fall of Jericho - PROOF!

  by Bloody Hotdogs! in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  from the november 2015 watchtower:.

  what have archaeologists found that shows that jericho was captured in a short time?.

  joshua 6:10-15, 20 says that the israelite soldiers marched around the city of jericho once a day for six days.

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  Sabin:

  I don't disagree with you here as I don't have the facts. The W.Ts take on things is usually to benefit themselves in some way. When it comes to the Bible then I tread cautiously. Many times it`s been said to be wrong only down the line to turn out right. The city of Petra for example. Wasnt it said to be impossible for a city to be built in a mountain & then they found it. The Exodus, crossing the Red sea etc. Well that's my opinion be it right or wrong I happen to have a great deal of respect for the bible. The WTBTS
  

  The city of Petra is not mentioned in the Bible. The city of Sela in Edom is not the same place as Petra.

  

  There is also no evidence that the 'Exodus' was a real event or that the Jews were in Egypt or that Moses existed or that there were 10 plagues or that the Jews were in the wilderness for 40 years.
  
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  Hebrew Was The First Language

  by Bloody Hotdogs! in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  according to the newest watchtower:.

  jehovah communicated with adam in the garden of eden, using human language.

  god likely did so in an ancient form of hebrew.

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  When someone starts with the viewpoint that humans have only existed for about 6,000 years, you can only expect the conclusions drawn from there to be idiotic.
  
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  JEFFRO - What happened to him?

  by EdenOne in

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  2. friends

  haven't seen jeffro in a few months.

  i wonder if he's doing ok.. eden.

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  Prayers answered

  by StopTheTears in

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  recently a lady i knew in china who contracted a rare virus, a sickness from which few chinamen ever survive.. .

  in china the woman was shifted from hospital to hospital with no one being able to treat the disease.

  eventually she was taken in by a hospital in shanghi.

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  The first image in the lame story isn't even from China. It is from Japan after an earthquake in 2011.
  
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  JEFFRO - What happened to him?

  by EdenOne in

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  haven't seen jeffro in a few months.

  i wonder if he's doing ok.. eden.

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  Jeffro is alive and well, but I haven't been very active on this forum for a while.
  
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  best ex JW sites

  by cobweb in

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  2. friends

  i used to visit this site about ten years ago.

  i haven't come her in a long time.

  i have just recently started talking to a family member who is leaving the jws and i wanted to know what are the best sites available these days for finding out all the topics of information - failed prophecy, 1975, rutherford's drinking, russells tombstone - you know all of that kind of stuff.. back in the day there used to be a site run by a norwegian i think called kent.

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  Bangalore:
  

  Here are some interesting blogs.

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  https://jeffro77.wordpress.com/

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  If anyone has comments or suggestions for additional content, I'd be happy to hear them.