‘scholar’:
As one actor said: "Stop being a girlie man".
I see you’re using Watchtower style to clearly cite your sources. 😂
if anyone were to come up to you claiming that they are the faithful and discreet slave, how would you go about proving them to be false, based upon scripture?.
estephan.
‘scholar’:
As one actor said: "Stop being a girlie man".
I see you’re using Watchtower style to clearly cite your sources. 😂
if anyone were to come up to you claiming that they are the faithful and discreet slave, how would you go about proving them to be false, based upon scripture?.
estephan.
‘scholar’:
I knew that so if that is the case then everything to do with Bible Chronology or Bible History can be discarded simply on the basis that you can pick and choose what facts or other information to accept or recognize .
To do so would be a fallacy of composition, and I have no need for resorting to such tactics. Unlike you, I consider all the relevant texts, their context, and what they actually say. You (parroting the Watch Tower Society), on the other hand, ignore inconvenient verses, read into texts what is not there, and completely distort the order of events.
The facts surrounding the composition of the book of Daniel are very well known, and the JW (Adventist) tradition is simply wrong.
watchtower has just lost its appeal in the norwegian courts over the withdrawal of the funding it receives from the government as an officially recognised religion.
the initial decision will now stand due to what the court termed 'exclusionary practices' which includes the witnesses barbaric practice of shunning minors, even by family members in their own homes.
the ministry of children and families have decided they are now no longer eligible for the state grant of 16 million norwegian kroner given to officially recognised religions.. the following is a statement has been issued, i have summarised if it isn't readable: .
Fisherman:
as a legitimate religion they do qualify for tax exempt status
Many governments do provide tax breaks to religious denominations, broadly with the view that those denominations provide charitable works (though that often isn’t the case). But there is no intrinsic obligation for individual governments to provide those tax exemptions, nor any requirement that illegal activity can be the only criterion that could disqualify a group from such exemptions.
if anyone were to come up to you claiming that they are the faithful and discreet slave, how would you go about proving them to be false, based upon scripture?.
estephan.
‘scholar’:
In order to fulfill Jeremiah's prophecy and later confirmed by Ezra, the land had to be vacated by the seventh month in 607 BCE which began the 70 years of Exile- Servitude and Desolation.
This goes back to one of the questions already asked in this thread that ‘scholar’ won’t (can’t) answer. If 70 years ended when the Jews arrived in Jerusalem, in what way was attention subsequently given to their return?
if anyone were to come up to you claiming that they are the faithful and discreet slave, how would you go about proving them to be false, based upon scripture?.
estephan.
‘scholar’:
I have answered your question and now you complain like a girl.
He’s sexist too. 🤷♂️ Hardly a surprise from someone in a sexist organisation.
if anyone were to come up to you claiming that they are the faithful and discreet slave, how would you go about proving them to be false, based upon scripture?.
estephan.
‘scholar’:
Nebuchadnezzer's madness and absence from the throne must have occurred sometime shortly after his 18th year 607 BCE and the beginning of the reign of his eldest son, Evil-Merodach in 580 BCE. Thus, I propose that it occurred during Nebs' 19th-32nd years of his reign which would be 606 BCE -593 BCE. it was during this period according to Josephus that Neb. besieged Tyre and it is most likely that Neb's son Evil 0Merodach or Amel -Marduk reigned in his place during Neb's vacancy..
‘“Must have occurred” … “it is most likely” … so I’m marking that as a fail because it is just speculation with no evidence and you didn’t specify a period of 7 years. Additionally, placement of this seven years inside the supposed ‘greater fulfilment’ Is contrary to the alleged significance of the latter.
Now I have a question: Do you accept the historicity of Neb's tree dream described in detail in Dan. 4 including Neb's banishment from his throne for 'seven times' or seven years?
😂 Of course not. The tale borrows elements from a story about Nabonidus, and there is no evidence whatsoever that any such event occurred. Desperate to find support, apologists occasionally cite an obscure claim that Nebuchadnezzar ‘made strange decrees’ as ‘evidence’, but this bears no similarity to him going off to live in the wild. Honest readers can read further at Seven Times and The Watch Tower Society’s 2014 attempt to defend 1914.
Now, please forward your next question and do not bother me with access to older posts. Just pose the question.You bore me. Your non-answers are predictable and I see no point in expending further effort. I already posted links to previous questions and you couldn’t be bothered following those. There is nothing to learn from you on this subject and the only point of sending you questions you can’t answer is to watch you flounder. The worst part is that you imagine your non-answers are valid responses, so in the end you learn nothing. It is of some benefit to onlookers though so maybe another time.
if anyone were to come up to you claiming that they are the faithful and discreet slave, how would you go about proving them to be false, based upon scripture?.
estephan.
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/266146/question-jw-apologists#4877678
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/244258/question-607-apologists#4607460
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/244265/another-question-607-apologists
There's a few questions for the non-scholar to non-answer. 🤣
Bonus question: during what specific range of years were Nebuchadnezzar's alleged 7 years of madness? Hint: it can't be during any period where there are actions attributed to Nebuchadnezzar.
if anyone were to come up to you claiming that they are the faithful and discreet slave, how would you go about proving them to be false, based upon scripture?.
estephan.
'scholar':
Accept this challenge.
I'm not particularly swayed by this fallacious appeal to pride either.
if anyone were to come up to you claiming that they are the faithful and discreet slave, how would you go about proving them to be false, based upon scripture?.
estephan.
if anyone were to come up to you claiming that they are the faithful and discreet slave, how would you go about proving them to be false, based upon scripture?.
estephan.
Haha. There’s a whole slew of threads with questions you have not answered.
Mighty? What a joke.