Sea Breeze:
Jeffro , that is a fallacy of false dichotomy.
It’s really not 😂. I don’t think you understand what a dichotomy is.
Posts by Jeffro
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98Who raised Jesus from the dead?
by Blotty ini have seen arguments surrounding jesus' resurrection being proof of "the trinity" - now while in some cases it's a good argument the evidence for it remains very weak.
(bible quotes are from the nwt but other bibles are referenced, use whichever you please) this following version of it is a good example.. "the bible indicates that all [persons] of the trinity was involved in jesus’ resurrection.
galatians[1:1] says that the father raised jesus from the dead.
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Who raised Jesus from the dead?
by Blotty ini have seen arguments surrounding jesus' resurrection being proof of "the trinity" - now while in some cases it's a good argument the evidence for it remains very weak.
(bible quotes are from the nwt but other bibles are referenced, use whichever you please) this following version of it is a good example.. "the bible indicates that all [persons] of the trinity was involved in jesus’ resurrection.
galatians[1:1] says that the father raised jesus from the dead.
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ThomasMore:
I think people tell accounts of what they experienced.
They tell their interpretations of experiences that are no more ‘real’ than a dream. It isn’t evidence of anything mystical.
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Who raised Jesus from the dead?
by Blotty ini have seen arguments surrounding jesus' resurrection being proof of "the trinity" - now while in some cases it's a good argument the evidence for it remains very weak.
(bible quotes are from the nwt but other bibles are referenced, use whichever you please) this following version of it is a good example.. "the bible indicates that all [persons] of the trinity was involved in jesus’ resurrection.
galatians[1:1] says that the father raised jesus from the dead.
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Sea Breeze:
So how do you expalin away tens of thousands of accounts of terminal lucidityand near death experiences to be able to arrive at your conclusion?
People who aren’t dead provide details of experiences when they were near death. 🤦♂️ Behaviour of neurotransmitters near death is fairly well understood. Not at all evidence of anything after death. How do you explain having any experience without a nervous system? 😂 Beliefs about consciousness independent of a functioning physical body are just made up nonsense based on ignorance and wishful thinking.
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Who raised Jesus from the dead?
by Blotty ini have seen arguments surrounding jesus' resurrection being proof of "the trinity" - now while in some cases it's a good argument the evidence for it remains very weak.
(bible quotes are from the nwt but other bibles are referenced, use whichever you please) this following version of it is a good example.. "the bible indicates that all [persons] of the trinity was involved in jesus’ resurrection.
galatians[1:1] says that the father raised jesus from the dead.
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Sea Breeze:
Becasue Jesus was a tri-patite being.... like us; he was still fully conscious in spirit after death, just as we will be.
🤦♂️ None of that has any basis in reality whatsoever.
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Who raised Jesus from the dead?
by Blotty ini have seen arguments surrounding jesus' resurrection being proof of "the trinity" - now while in some cases it's a good argument the evidence for it remains very weak.
(bible quotes are from the nwt but other bibles are referenced, use whichever you please) this following version of it is a good example.. "the bible indicates that all [persons] of the trinity was involved in jesus’ resurrection.
galatians[1:1] says that the father raised jesus from the dead.
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Blotty:
There are other videos on YouTube similar in nature to this (not to hard to find) with similar reasoning.
Indeed there are. The reasoning is poor. And several of the claims therein, such as that the 'gospels' are widely regarded by scholars as historical, are simply false.
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Who raised Jesus from the dead?
by Blotty ini have seen arguments surrounding jesus' resurrection being proof of "the trinity" - now while in some cases it's a good argument the evidence for it remains very weak.
(bible quotes are from the nwt but other bibles are referenced, use whichever you please) this following version of it is a good example.. "the bible indicates that all [persons] of the trinity was involved in jesus’ resurrection.
galatians[1:1] says that the father raised jesus from the dead.
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Jeffro
🤦♂️
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Who raised Jesus from the dead?
by Blotty ini have seen arguments surrounding jesus' resurrection being proof of "the trinity" - now while in some cases it's a good argument the evidence for it remains very weak.
(bible quotes are from the nwt but other bibles are referenced, use whichever you please) this following version of it is a good example.. "the bible indicates that all [persons] of the trinity was involved in jesus’ resurrection.
galatians[1:1] says that the father raised jesus from the dead.
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Blotty:
Punk of nice (& Jeffro)
The question of whether there was an itinerant preacher named Yeshua in the first century is entirely mundane and quite separate to the many religious superstitions about Jesus. Even the term ‘Christ myth theory’ is misleading, as the fact that Christ is a myth has much wider acceptance among scholars than the separate unremarkable likelihood that Jesus existed. Those who agree that a man named Jesus existed but was not magical are properly using the term ‘Christ myth’, but those who oppose the ‘theory’ are also happy to use the term ‘Christ myth theory’ because it allows them to smuggle their religious superstitions in with the broader rejection of the notion that the man didn’t exist.
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Are the teachings of JW—consistent?
by Fisherman ini would belief so but if you can point something out, it can be discussed.. i don’t mean what jw taught in the past that they later realized was not correct and amended.
—unless you think and can show something like that is relevant.. i’ve spoken to a lot of believers from different religions.
i don’t want to bash any religion here under this topic but their beliefs are inconsistent and their reasons are sophistry and made up and grounded on circular reasoning.
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Jeffro
JWs aren't allowed to accept blood transfusions, including white blood cells, but breast milk contains a significant number of white blood cells.
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Are the teachings of JW—consistent?
by Fisherman ini would belief so but if you can point something out, it can be discussed.. i don’t mean what jw taught in the past that they later realized was not correct and amended.
—unless you think and can show something like that is relevant.. i’ve spoken to a lot of believers from different religions.
i don’t want to bash any religion here under this topic but their beliefs are inconsistent and their reasons are sophistry and made up and grounded on circular reasoning.
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Jeffro
JW literature says that very specific traits of narrow species must have been 'designed'. For example, Awake!, No. 1, 2017, p. 16:
Did the compound heat shield of the Saharan silver ant come about by evolution? Or was it designed?
However, this would require that at least pairs (though for many species, entire colonies) would be required on the 'ark' of all of those specific species with unique traits. But because this would be physically impossible, they inconsistently say that only a few - poorly defined - 'kinds' would be needed. (And anyone who has kept an aquarium would realise the problems the 'flood' would pose for the majority of fish species.)
Other 'was it designed' gaffes inherently require that the 'design' was required from the outset because of predation. 🤦♂️ For example, Awake!, 8 December 2008, p. 18:
Though less than an inch in length [2 cm], the bombardier beetle is noted for its unique defense mechanism. When threatened, the insect sprays boiling, foul-smelling liquid and steam from its posterior, warding off spiders, birds, and even frogs.
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Are the teachings of JW—consistent?
by Fisherman ini would belief so but if you can point something out, it can be discussed.. i don’t mean what jw taught in the past that they later realized was not correct and amended.
—unless you think and can show something like that is relevant.. i’ve spoken to a lot of believers from different religions.
i don’t want to bash any religion here under this topic but their beliefs are inconsistent and their reasons are sophistry and made up and grounded on circular reasoning.
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Jeffro
Also, JWs insist that they are 'no part of the world', and that people should 'pay Cesar's things to Caesar' but they accept and expect tax concessions from 'worldly' governments. When Norway determines that the denomination does not meet its requirements for government subsidies (due to their draconian shunning policies), JWs complain that it is 'an attack on their freedom of worship', though JW activities in Norway are not curtailed in any way. And threat to their tax-free status in Australia was the only thing that could get them to sign up to the redress scheme for child sexual abuse there.