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  Who told the first lie?

  by nicolaou in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this is a continuation of the discussion which sprang from an unrelated topic.. so according to genesis, who told the first lie?

  god told eve that if she ate from the tree of knowledge she would die that very same day.

  in response to that statement the devil told her she would not die.. eve ate from the tree and did not die.

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  Jeffro

  So, no. Saying what something does isn’t a definition of what it is.

  What animates living cells is cellular metabolism, not ‘spirit’. The plural of cellular function isn’t ‘spirit’.
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  299

  Who told the first lie?

  by nicolaou in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this is a continuation of the discussion which sprang from an unrelated topic.. so according to genesis, who told the first lie?

  god told eve that if she ate from the tree of knowledge she would die that very same day.

  in response to that statement the devil told her she would not die.. eve ate from the tree and did not die.

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  Jeffro

  Halcon:

  Does the materialist discard the mind, heart and spirit?

  Let’s see if you can provide a meaningful definition of ‘spirit’. (And it would need to be something distinct from ‘heart’ and ‘mind’ in the given context.)
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  299

  Who told the first lie?

  by nicolaou in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this is a continuation of the discussion which sprang from an unrelated topic.. so according to genesis, who told the first lie?

  god told eve that if she ate from the tree of knowledge she would die that very same day.

  in response to that statement the devil told her she would not die.. eve ate from the tree and did not die.

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  Jeffro

  🤦‍♂️
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  299

  Who told the first lie?

  by nicolaou in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this is a continuation of the discussion which sprang from an unrelated topic.. so according to genesis, who told the first lie?

  god told eve that if she ate from the tree of knowledge she would die that very same day.

  in response to that statement the devil told her she would not die.. eve ate from the tree and did not die.

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  Jeffro

  FragrantAddendum:

  lol, well it's definitely working!

  You may have mistaken yourself for the intended audience rather than a cautionary example.
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  299

  Who told the first lie?

  by nicolaou in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this is a continuation of the discussion which sprang from an unrelated topic.. so according to genesis, who told the first lie?

  god told eve that if she ate from the tree of knowledge she would die that very same day.

  in response to that statement the devil told her she would not die.. eve ate from the tree and did not die.

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  Jeffro

  FragrantAddendum:

  why do you talk about him so much if you don't even believe he exists?

  It’s a public service to raise awareness of fallacious reasoning.

  Why do you talk him so much when you have no evidence that he does exist?
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  299

  Who told the first lie?

  by nicolaou in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this is a continuation of the discussion which sprang from an unrelated topic.. so according to genesis, who told the first lie?

  god told eve that if she ate from the tree of knowledge she would die that very same day.

  in response to that statement the devil told her she would not die.. eve ate from the tree and did not die.

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  Jeffro

  joey jojo:

  How so?

  Sigh. I thought the sidebar was unnecessary. Anyway… you referenced animal behaviour that is not present in the story and then when there was a factual objection to the misleading generalisations about animal behaviour, you said it was outside the scope of the story.
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  299

  Who told the first lie?

  by nicolaou in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this is a continuation of the discussion which sprang from an unrelated topic.. so according to genesis, who told the first lie?

  god told eve that if she ate from the tree of knowledge she would die that very same day.

  in response to that statement the devil told her she would not die.. eve ate from the tree and did not die.

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  Jeffro

  joey jojo:

  Jeffro, in an online conversation, nuance is sometimes lost. I think our side-bar has come way off the rails.

  You were inconsistent about the scope of discussion. It’s not a big deal.

  It’s a human-centric origin story that attempts to explain the current human condition and our place in the universe. It has the same characters as other origin stories: A Creator, a Destroyer and a Preserver.

  Yep.
  
  
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  299

  Who told the first lie?

  by nicolaou in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this is a continuation of the discussion which sprang from an unrelated topic.. so according to genesis, who told the first lie?

  god told eve that if she ate from the tree of knowledge she would die that very same day.

  in response to that statement the devil told her she would not die.. eve ate from the tree and did not die.

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  Jeffro

  FragrantAddendum:

  seems to me if you think god is an enemy

  Only in the sense that Darth Vader or Voldemort are ‘enemies’.

  I hope your ‘friend’ isn’t too angry about you not capitalising his title though. I’ve heard he does nasty things when he’s angry. I’m sure he’ll get back to you in some completely verifiable way.
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  299

  Who told the first lie?

  by nicolaou in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this is a continuation of the discussion which sprang from an unrelated topic.. so according to genesis, who told the first lie?

  god told eve that if she ate from the tree of knowledge she would die that very same day.

  in response to that statement the devil told her she would not die.. eve ate from the tree and did not die.

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  Jeffro

  FragrantAddendum:

  (asking for a friend)

  Good. If you think God is your friend, you could probably do with some real ones.
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  299

  Who told the first lie?

  by nicolaou in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this is a continuation of the discussion which sprang from an unrelated topic.. so according to genesis, who told the first lie?

  god told eve that if she ate from the tree of knowledge she would die that very same day.

  in response to that statement the devil told her she would not die.. eve ate from the tree and did not die.

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  Jeffro

  Halcon:

  Except the snake knew what God had already told Adam and Eve.

  That is not indicated in the story, which doesn’t specify that God directly gave the command to Eve at all. The command was given to Adam before rib-girl was made, and the story doesn’t say whether Eve learned of the command directly from God or from Adam. When the snake asks Eve about what trees they can eat from, Eve gives a different answer to the actual original command without referencing the name of the tree at all (despite your false claim that she repeated the exact same words), and the snake doesn’t correct her about the original command, but only corrects the lie. The story indicates that the snake knew the truth about the tree of knowledge and it knew God had said something about what trees they could eat from, but not that it knew the exact command given to Adam.