Posts by Jeffro

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Who told the first lie?

by nicolaou in

this is a continuation of the discussion which sprang from an unrelated topic.. so according to genesis, who told the first lie?

god told eve that if she ate from the tree of knowledge she would die that very same day.

in response to that statement the devil told her she would not die.. eve ate from the tree and did not die.

Jeffro

Halcon:

Hehe, you have a way of verifying if spirit matches up with my definition?

Well I said it’s unverifiable so obviously not. 🤦‍♂️ If your comprehension skills are this poor, it’s obvious why you got so many of the details wrong about the ‘Adam and Eve’ story. There’s no evidence for a deity and your prattle about a ‘truer self’ is esoteric drivel that doesn’t even relate to your first attempt at a definition. In reality ‘spirit’ is a superstitious placeholder for whatever nonsense the ‘believer’ feels like it is at the time.

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Who told the first lie?

by nicolaou in

this is a continuation of the discussion which sprang from an unrelated topic.. so according to genesis, who told the first lie?

god told eve that if she ate from the tree of knowledge she would die that very same day.

in response to that statement the devil told her she would not die.. eve ate from the tree and did not die.

Jeffro

Halcon:

Spirit is your truer self from the perspective of God.

That’s just unverifiable word salad.

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Has The "Evil Slave" Died Out?

by Sea Breeze in

those of us who have deep roots into watchtower remember the shadowy whispers about "the evil slave" when we were kids.. for those that need to get up to speed: .

the internal crisis came to its full with the occurrence of an outstanding bible-predicted event, namely, the coming of jehovah’s “messenger,” christ jesus, to jehovah’s temple for judgment in the spring of 1918, to separate the “faithful and discreet slave” class from the “evil slave” group.

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Jeffro

The ‘evil slave’ is a motif in a parable. So because it isn’t actually a thing that exists, it would be accurate to say it hasn’t died out.

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Who told the first lie?

by nicolaou in

this is a continuation of the discussion which sprang from an unrelated topic.. so according to genesis, who told the first lie?

god told eve that if she ate from the tree of knowledge she would die that very same day.

in response to that statement the devil told her she would not die.. eve ate from the tree and did not die.

Jeffro

Still waiting for a meaningful definition of ‘spirit’.

Because the previous attempt was entirely asinine, it’s probably worth clarifying the difference between a definition and a function. If someone says a blurgle is hiding their socks, ‘the thing that hides socks’ is not a definition of ‘blurgle’. It’s just an argument from ignorance.

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Who told the first lie?

by nicolaou in

this is a continuation of the discussion which sprang from an unrelated topic.. so according to genesis, who told the first lie?

god told eve that if she ate from the tree of knowledge she would die that very same day.

in response to that statement the devil told her she would not die.. eve ate from the tree and did not die.

Jeffro

Halcon:

The fact that you are asking for a definition of the word 'spirit' confirms you believe it exists.

🤦‍♂️ No, it only assumes that you believe it does

299

Who told the first lie?

by nicolaou in

this is a continuation of the discussion which sprang from an unrelated topic.. so according to genesis, who told the first lie?

god told eve that if she ate from the tree of knowledge she would die that very same day.

in response to that statement the devil told her she would not die.. eve ate from the tree and did not die.

Jeffro

Halcon:

Spirit is what animates the physical elements (carbon, hydrogen etc) into a living human body.

Also, for the record, I’m not naive about the bait-and-switch in this distraction from the original vague intent of ‘spirit’ in the expression ‘mind, heart and spirit’.

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Who told the first lie?

by nicolaou in

this is a continuation of the discussion which sprang from an unrelated topic.. so according to genesis, who told the first lie?

god told eve that if she ate from the tree of knowledge she would die that very same day.

in response to that statement the devil told her she would not die.. eve ate from the tree and did not die.

Jeffro

Halcon:

Hehe...and what is behind cellular metabolism?

Chemistry.

Still waiting for any meaningful definition of ‘spirit’.

299

Who told the first lie?

by nicolaou in

this is a continuation of the discussion which sprang from an unrelated topic.. so according to genesis, who told the first lie?

god told eve that if she ate from the tree of knowledge she would die that very same day.

in response to that statement the devil told her she would not die.. eve ate from the tree and did not die.

Jeffro

So, no. Saying what something does isn’t a definition of what it is.

What animates living cells is cellular metabolism, not ‘spirit’. The plural of cellular function isn’t ‘spirit’.

299

Who told the first lie?

by nicolaou in

this is a continuation of the discussion which sprang from an unrelated topic.. so according to genesis, who told the first lie?

god told eve that if she ate from the tree of knowledge she would die that very same day.

in response to that statement the devil told her she would not die.. eve ate from the tree and did not die.

Jeffro

Halcon:

Does the materialist discard the mind, heart and spirit?

Let’s see if you can provide a meaningful definition of ‘spirit’. (And it would need to be something distinct from ‘heart’ and ‘mind’ in the given context.)

299

Who told the first lie?

by nicolaou in

this is a continuation of the discussion which sprang from an unrelated topic.. so according to genesis, who told the first lie?

god told eve that if she ate from the tree of knowledge she would die that very same day.

in response to that statement the devil told her she would not die.. eve ate from the tree and did not die.

Jeffro

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