i would suggest:.
the short answer is yes.. the longer answer is a qualified yes, with some caveats.
the short answer is yes because jehovah’s witnesses teach that jesus is michael the archangel, their leader, eldest and most powerful, and have taught this since the very beginning of the religion.
slimboyfat:
I can’t understand the mentality of people who are not interested in a topic themselves so want to stop it.
I didn’t try to stop anything. You’re entirely welcome to provide evidence for angels whenever you like. And you’ve continued to ignore my actual point that I elaborated on after that.
sea breeze: @nicolau,i stated my case rather succiently, which you failed to address.
if you have a better solution to the problem of evil than what jesus offers, then why don't you present that in a new topic?.
pathetic diversion.
Halcon:
Tsk tsk jeffro... how about this one... Matthew 7:6.
How very predictable. But in addition to failing your Christian obligation at 1 Peter 3:15, you’ve also demonstrated that the Bible is used by ‘believers’ as a tedious ‘choose-your-own-adventure’ of contradictory cherry picking. Well done. 🤦♂️
sea breeze: @nicolau,i stated my case rather succiently, which you failed to address.
if you have a better solution to the problem of evil than what jesus offers, then why don't you present that in a new topic?.
pathetic diversion.
Halcon:
Hehe..cheer up buddy, turn that frown upside down : )
This is the kind of nonsense you can expect from ‘believers’ when they can’t comply with 1 Peter 3:15.
sea breeze: @nicolau,i stated my case rather succiently, which you failed to address.
if you have a better solution to the problem of evil than what jesus offers, then why don't you present that in a new topic?.
pathetic diversion.
Halcon:
And the closest I can come to it is the fact that I simply don't comprehend enough.
It’s pretty sad when someone’s best ‘defence’ for the ‘problem of evil’ is explicitly an appeal to ignorance.
i would suggest:.
the short answer is yes.. the longer answer is a qualified yes, with some caveats.
the short answer is yes because jehovah’s witnesses teach that jesus is michael the archangel, their leader, eldest and most powerful, and have taught this since the very beginning of the religion.
the discussion centered solely on inspiration
But you haven’t provided any meaningful definition of what ‘inspiration’ actually is or how it supposedly works. It is indistinguishable from ‘a thing you believe because some other people made something up’.
i would suggest:.
the short answer is yes.. the longer answer is a qualified yes, with some caveats.
the short answer is yes because jehovah’s witnesses teach that jesus is michael the archangel, their leader, eldest and most powerful, and have taught this since the very beginning of the religion.
If I, like you, believed scripture was uninspired, I would not care what Joe Schmoe had to say or intended?
So. It’s my position that has more respect for the original intent of the writings rather than retconning with later reinterpretations.
And it’s still not clear how your statement can be interpreted as a question.
so, the organization says the “disgusting thing that causes desolation” in daniel 11:31 is the united nations being set up in 1945, but in daniel 12:11 when they interpret the 1,290 days they say it’s the league of nations in 1919. please could someone play devils advocate and tell why this could be anything but inconsistent?
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Okay, if you say so.
Yeah, because I’m the one with the outlandish view here. 🤦♂️
so, the organization says the “disgusting thing that causes desolation” in daniel 11:31 is the united nations being set up in 1945, but in daniel 12:11 when they interpret the 1,290 days they say it’s the league of nations in 1919. please could someone play devils advocate and tell why this could be anything but inconsistent?
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Duran:
It may prove to be true that the UN is the 'disgusting thing' (KOTN/8th king), but it was not so upon being set up in 1945. The 8th king comes about at some point during WW3.
No. Apart from the superstitious hyperbole about ‘God’s kingdom’, everything in Daniel was done and dusted in the 2nd century BCE.
so, the organization says the “disgusting thing that causes desolation” in daniel 11:31 is the united nations being set up in 1945, but in daniel 12:11 when they interpret the 1,290 days they say it’s the league of nations in 1919. please could someone play devils advocate and tell why this could be anything but inconsistent?
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If you think those interpretations are nuts (and they are), have a look at their interpretation of the ‘2300 days’ in Daniel chapter 8. 🤦♂️
i would suggest:.
the short answer is yes.. the longer answer is a qualified yes, with some caveats.
the short answer is yes because jehovah’s witnesses teach that jesus is michael the archangel, their leader, eldest and most powerful, and have taught this since the very beginning of the religion.
f I looked at scripture as you do Jeffro i would not care what Joe Shmoe had to say or intended?
That makes no sense. Clearly you don’t understand how I look at scripture (a further unfounded assumption on your part) because I consider it in its historical and political context, which necessarily is concerned with what the authors intended.
