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  Shunning--newest directive

  by stan livedeath in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so just what is the latest directive on shunning?.

  asking for a family member.

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  Jeffro

  Jehalapeno:

  The major on paper change is that you can greet and talk to disfellowshipped people at the Kingdom Hall now.

  Though there may be some latitude in what individual JWs might consider a suitable greeting at meetings, the official position allows only for briefly greeting and welcoming a removed person at the meeting, not extended conversation or socialising.

  stan livedeath:

  but has the cult relaxed the rules recently?

  They have relaxed the rules slightly, but only in the context of people who want to return. The leadership still dictates that individuals who have been baptised, including minors, who express that they do not accept JW doctrines and/or authority (i.e. ‘apostates’) are still to be completely shunned.
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  Watchtower Reader - Perhaps aka Watchtower Library Bethel Edition?

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the spanish exjw forum) is closing soon.

  (but that's a whole different topic).someone found an app called watchtower reader, i have the 2006 version in spanish, and it seems like it's a special edition of the wt library app that has much more than the regular wt library.. for example, it has:awakes up to 1960 (this is not even found in the english wt library).

  wt up to 1960 (found up to 1950 in the wt library in english but only up to 1970 in spanish).organized to accomplish your ministry (2005).anyone here know or could get this in the english version and the latest they can find?

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  Jeffro

  ILoveTTATT2:

  Does anyone know if there is an English version of the WT Library Bethel Edition?

  Old thread, but this image exists in the graphics resources stored in WTLib.exe :)

  As does this one:

  

  But one would need the relevant accompanying databases to actually use those modes.
  
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  Dip Anyone?

  by peacefulpete in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  a quick comment regarding how subsequent gospel writers often felt an irresistible need to clarify or expand upon their sources.

  in the last supper story, the gospel that came to be named after mark 14 has jesus declare that one of the twelve who eats with him from the same bowl will betray him.

  17 and evening having come, he cometh with the twelve,18 and as they are reclining, and eating, jesus said, `verily i say to you -- one of you, who is eating with me -- shall deliver me up.

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  KOW:

  They tend to decipher Jewish life that way because the New Testament is written using rhetoric and not genuine language.

  Indeed. There’s a lot of retconning in the NT and even more in modern Christian interpretations thereof, particularly the glaring insertion of Jesus and Satan into OT themes where they were not actually present either directly or even implicitly. As such, Christian depictions of Jewish history and culture appear almost(?) as a parody.

  It’s not even the case that modern Judaism is an exact representation of ancient Judaism, reflecting successive influences by Egyptian, Assyrian, Babylonian, Persian, Syrian and Greek cultures, a significant shift after the destruction of the Second Temple, and the advancement of understanding of the natural world in general.
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  Dip Anyone?

  by peacefulpete in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  a quick comment regarding how subsequent gospel writers often felt an irresistible need to clarify or expand upon their sources.

  in the last supper story, the gospel that came to be named after mark 14 has jesus declare that one of the twelve who eats with him from the same bowl will betray him.

  17 and evening having come, he cometh with the twelve,18 and as they are reclining, and eating, jesus said, `verily i say to you -- one of you, who is eating with me -- shall deliver me up.

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  Jeffro

  It is of some interest that 'dipping the morsel' has some basis in actual customs, but the specific purpose of the custom is ancillary to the point that subsequent versions of the story were modified to account for perceived flaws in the narrative.
  
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  2024 year Highlights: JWs hit 9 million Publishers

  by Sanchy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  watchtower put out some highlights for the 2024 service year:.

  average publishers: 8,828,124. peak publishers: 9,043,460. a 43.2 percent increase in "those who returned to jehovah", meaning 65,816 were reinstated.

  baptized: 296,267. memorial attendance: 21,119,442. missing stat: number of partakers .. womp womp.

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  Jeffro

  Wow. 🙄 An artificial increase by appealing to lapsed members, and only needing to tick a box without reporting hours. And they fall for it.

  This is just a (predictable) result of the fact that JWs count 'membership' in a manner that favours rate of growth.
  
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  Biden calls Trump supporters garbage

  by moomanchu in

  1. social
  2. current

  a comedian in a comedy sketch at a trunp rally joked that the island of puerto rico is a floating island of garbage.. what to do???

  potus pappy joe to the rescue!!

  he sounds the alarm, comes out swinging and calls trump supporters, actual people, garbage.. .

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  Jeffro

  🤦‍♂️
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  Biden calls Trump supporters garbage

  by moomanchu in

  1. social
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  a comedian in a comedy sketch at a trunp rally joked that the island of puerto rico is a floating island of garbage.. what to do???

  potus pappy joe to the rescue!!

  he sounds the alarm, comes out swinging and calls trump supporters, actual people, garbage.. .

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  moonmanchu:

  You to. LOL

  That makes no sense, even aside from the spelling error. I have no political affiliation and am not in the US. I realise it’s convenient to ignore what I’ve actually said and instead attack some straw man version of my position.

  Just own the garbage comment. What's the big deal it's nothing compared to all the other names given to us.

  The US is not the centre of the universe. It isn’t valid to suggest that I should ‘own the comment’.

  To his credit, one thing Trump does not do is mock the Biden and Camela voters!

  That’s a lie. And who is Camela?
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  Biden calls Trump supporters garbage

  by moomanchu in

  1. social
  2. current

  a comedian in a comedy sketch at a trunp rally joked that the island of puerto rico is a floating island of garbage.. what to do???

  potus pappy joe to the rescue!!

  he sounds the alarm, comes out swinging and calls trump supporters, actual people, garbage.. .

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  Jeffro

  🤦‍♂️ ok then. Enjoy your echo chamber
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  Biden calls Trump supporters garbage

  by moomanchu in

  1. social
  2. current

  a comedian in a comedy sketch at a trunp rally joked that the island of puerto rico is a floating island of garbage.. what to do???

  potus pappy joe to the rescue!!

  he sounds the alarm, comes out swinging and calls trump supporters, actual people, garbage.. .

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  Jeffro

  moonmanchu:

  With the apostrophe it should have finished with "his supporter's rhetoric, comments, language, speech, attitude, actions, jokes, discourse, views, opinions ........"

  No. In the structure provided, the ‘garbage’ is already indicated as the thing possessed by the ‘supporters’. Whilst the nature of the garbage could be further clarified, it is not necessary to the sentence structure. However, the apostrophe should really go after the ‘s’ unless only indicating one supporter’s garbage.

  If I were to say, “the only car I see here is his friend’s”, it is clear that the car belongs to the friend, and it isn’t necessary to further elaborate about the car.

  It is funny how Biden (who isn’t a candidate in the election) is supposed to be this incoherent doddering fool who can’t say what he means until something he says can be conveniently misconstrued.
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  Biden calls Trump supporters garbage

  by moomanchu in

  1. social
  2. current

  a comedian in a comedy sketch at a trunp rally joked that the island of puerto rico is a floating island of garbage.. what to do???

  potus pappy joe to the rescue!!

  he sounds the alarm, comes out swinging and calls trump supporters, actual people, garbage.. .

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  Jeffro

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