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  Insight Book LIES - then tells the TRUTH!

  by BoogerMan in

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  it-1 p. 493 communication - "when the circumcision issue was resolved by the governing body in jerusalem......".

  it-1 p. 881 galatians, letter to the - "by reason of a revelation, paul, with barnabas and titus, went to jerusalem regarding the circumcision issue; he learned nothing new from james, peter, and john, but they recognized that he had been empowered for an apostleship to the nations.

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  Jeffro

  VAT 4956 (line 16 on the front) indicates the summer solstice on the 9th day of the 3rd month. During the Neo-Babylonian period, the Julian date of the summer solstice must fall within the range of 27–30 June. For 568 BCE, the 9th day of the 3rd month corresponds to 29 June, exactly as expected. However, because the Watch Tower Society claims that Nisan of 588 BCE began on 3 May, this would require that the summer solstice occurred on 9 July, which is impossible.

  Now, go and educate yourself about solstices. (More realistically, let the projection and argument from ignorance continue 🤣.)
  
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  150

  Insight Book LIES - then tells the TRUTH!

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it-1 p. 493 communication - "when the circumcision issue was resolved by the governing body in jerusalem......".

  it-1 p. 881 galatians, letter to the - "by reason of a revelation, paul, with barnabas and titus, went to jerusalem regarding the circumcision issue; he learned nothing new from james, peter, and john, but they recognized that he had been empowered for an apostleship to the nations.

  " (galatians 2:1-10).

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  ‘scholar’:

  That is not what I asked. What I ask from you is simply ONE line of evidence that disproves 607 BCE.

  🤦‍♂️ if that’s what you’re after, just stop reading after the first bit of evidence. 🤣
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  150

  Insight Book LIES - then tells the TRUTH!

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it-1 p. 493 communication - "when the circumcision issue was resolved by the governing body in jerusalem......".

  it-1 p. 881 galatians, letter to the - "by reason of a revelation, paul, with barnabas and titus, went to jerusalem regarding the circumcision issue; he learned nothing new from james, peter, and john, but they recognized that he had been empowered for an apostleship to the nations.

  " (galatians 2:1-10).

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  ‘scholar’:

  Seeing that the sources are robust could you then provide ONE line of evidence that disproves 607 BE?

  Whenever ‘scholar’ plays this tedious game after already having been given mountains of evidence, it always reminds me of the “What have the Roman’s ever done for us?” scene from Life of Brian.
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  Insight Book LIES - then tells the TRUTH!

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it-1 p. 493 communication - "when the circumcision issue was resolved by the governing body in jerusalem......".

  it-1 p. 881 galatians, letter to the - "by reason of a revelation, paul, with barnabas and titus, went to jerusalem regarding the circumcision issue; he learned nothing new from james, peter, and john, but they recognized that he had been empowered for an apostleship to the nations.

  " (galatians 2:1-10).

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  It would appear that aqwsed 12345 does not agree with you pushing the barrow on 587 BCE

  It hardly matters. My assessment of the sources is factually robust, and I’m aware of the fallacious appeal to tradition that leads some to cling to the incorrect year.
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  Insight Book LIES - then tells the TRUTH!

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it-1 p. 493 communication - "when the circumcision issue was resolved by the governing body in jerusalem......".

  it-1 p. 881 galatians, letter to the - "by reason of a revelation, paul, with barnabas and titus, went to jerusalem regarding the circumcision issue; he learned nothing new from james, peter, and john, but they recognized that he had been empowered for an apostleship to the nations.

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  aqwsed12345:

  Jeremiah 52 explicitly lists multiple deportations: Nebuchadnezzar’s 7th year (597 BCE), 18th year (586 BCE), and 23rd year (582 BCE).

  This aptly demonstrates the faulty argument from tradition for asserting 586 BCE rather than the correct 587 BCE. It’s readily apparent that 5 years before the 23rd year (582 BCE) is 587 BCE. It’s only very slightly more complicated for the 11 years after the 7th year because that deportation was in 597 BCE, but it was before Nisan and also pinpoints 587 BCE when considered properly.
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  Insight Book LIES - then tells the TRUTH!

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it-1 p. 493 communication - "when the circumcision issue was resolved by the governing body in jerusalem......".

  it-1 p. 881 galatians, letter to the - "by reason of a revelation, paul, with barnabas and titus, went to jerusalem regarding the circumcision issue; he learned nothing new from james, peter, and john, but they recognized that he had been empowered for an apostleship to the nations.

  " (galatians 2:1-10).

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  🤦‍♂️ there’s no helping the wilfully ignorant 🤣
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  Insight Book LIES - then tells the TRUTH!

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it-1 p. 493 communication - "when the circumcision issue was resolved by the governing body in jerusalem......".

  it-1 p. 881 galatians, letter to the - "by reason of a revelation, paul, with barnabas and titus, went to jerusalem regarding the circumcision issue; he learned nothing new from james, peter, and john, but they recognized that he had been empowered for an apostleship to the nations.

  " (galatians 2:1-10).

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  Vidqun:

  Not sure about the "prophetic year" concept, but working exclusively on Biblical data, there is a clear correspondence between Daniel's calender and that of John in Revelation.

  360 is a convenient shorthand for the length of a year as 360 has 24 factors, and is evenly divisible by 10 of the first 12 positive integers. Revelation borrows from Daniel and Ezekiel, so it’s nothing remarkable that it uses that trope. The rounding of the length of a year to 360 days is ultimately taken from Babylonian usage.
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  Insight Book LIES - then tells the TRUTH!

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it-1 p. 493 communication - "when the circumcision issue was resolved by the governing body in jerusalem......".

  it-1 p. 881 galatians, letter to the - "by reason of a revelation, paul, with barnabas and titus, went to jerusalem regarding the circumcision issue; he learned nothing new from james, peter, and john, but they recognized that he had been empowered for an apostleship to the nations.

  " (galatians 2:1-10).

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  ‘scholar’:

  COJ makes only an indirect reference to the 586/587 controversy through a footnote.

  haha. He finally admits that he lied about my analysis of 586/587 BCE being copied from COJ. Now go and actually read the words instead of just gawking at the ‘pretty charts’. https://jeffro77.wordpress.com/2022/11/17/586-or-587/
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  Insight Book LIES - then tells the TRUTH!

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it-1 p. 493 communication - "when the circumcision issue was resolved by the governing body in jerusalem......".

  it-1 p. 881 galatians, letter to the - "by reason of a revelation, paul, with barnabas and titus, went to jerusalem regarding the circumcision issue; he learned nothing new from james, peter, and john, but they recognized that he had been empowered for an apostleship to the nations.

  " (galatians 2:1-10).

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  ‘scholar’:

  A prophetic year is described in the Bible and I refer you to its usage in Rev. 11: 2,3: 12:6, 14; and Ezek.4: 5 Dan.12:11; FOR its equivalent 'times'.

  Meh. A ChatGPT response is more than he deserves… (but see also https://jeffro77.wordpress.com/index/pure-worship-ezekiel-revisited/#390Days).

  The claim asserts that a “prophetic year” is described in the Bible and references several verses to support this concept. Let’s assess the validity of this claim by examining the context of these passages.

  
  

  1. Revelation 11:2-3 & 12:6, 14

  • Revelation 11:2-3: These verses mention 42 months and 1,260 days as equivalent time periods.

  • Revelation 12:6, 14: Verse 6 states that the woman fled for 1,260 days, while verse 14 describes the same event as “a time, times, and half a time” (often interpreted as 3.5 years).

  
  

  Since 42 months = 1,260 days, and 1,260 days = 3.5 years, this suggests a year in this context is assumed to be 360 days long (1,260 ÷ 3.5 = 360), often referred to as a “prophetic year.”

  
  

  2. Ezekiel 4:5

  • This verse is part of Ezekiel’s symbolic action, where God tells him to lie on his side for 390 days to represent the years of Israel’s sin.

  • Ezekiel 4:6 explicitly establishes a day-for-a-year principle: “I have appointed thee each day for a year.”

  
  

  However, this does not explicitly define a prophetic year of 360 days. Instead, it establishes a symbolic equation where a day represents a year in certain prophetic contexts.

  
  

  3. Daniel 12:11

  • This verse refers to 1,290 days, which is slightly longer than the 1,260-day period.

  • It is not directly equated to “times” in this passage, so it does not directly support the claim that a “prophetic year” is described as 360 days long.

  
  

  Assessment of the Claim

  • The 360-day prophetic year concept does have some biblical basis, particularly in Revelation 11-12, where 1,260 days and 42 months align with 3.5 years.

  • Ezekiel 4:5-6 establishes a day-for-a-year principle but does not explicitly define a prophetic year’s length.

  • Daniel 12:11 introduces a different time period (1,290 days) that does not fit neatly into the 360-day prophetic year model.

  
  

  Conclusion

  
  

  The claim that a “prophetic year” is explicitly described in the Bible is partially supported by some verses in Revelation, which use a 360-day year. However, Ezekiel 4:5 and Daniel 12:11 do not directly support this concept. The claim is overstated in suggesting that all the cited verses consistently define a prophetic year.

  
  
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  150

  Insight Book LIES - then tells the TRUTH!

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it-1 p. 493 communication - "when the circumcision issue was resolved by the governing body in jerusalem......".

  it-1 p. 881 galatians, letter to the - "by reason of a revelation, paul, with barnabas and titus, went to jerusalem regarding the circumcision issue; he learned nothing new from james, peter, and john, but they recognized that he had been empowered for an apostleship to the nations.

  " (galatians 2:1-10).

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  ‘scholar’:

  You have made this claim before, but if this is correct, does your analysis of 586 or 587 BCE mirror COJ's thesis? If not, could you list or explain where you differ?

  I haven’t closely considered COJ’s work. Which is kind of the point. I read some of his book online in 2015. I’m not aware that he makes any specific argument of 587 BCE over 586 BCE, and whether he has is unrelated to the logical sequence of premises I have laid out at https://jeffro77.wordpress.com/2022/11/17/586-or-587/.

  But because you are a dishonest coward, you will continue to ignore the content and just prattle on with the same old empty drivel that you’ve done for years.