Posts by cathyk

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The "Judge" Rutherford books, ever seen or read them?

by wanderlustguy in

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i have deliverance here...stange how the book kinda goes with the movie.... also found 8 more at a flea market...but they wanted $12.00 each.

i got a kick out of the illustrations of the devil and the wt emblem on the back is kinda spooky.

cathyk

I've got all of the "Rainbow" series, plus Comfort for the Jews. I still haven't bought Millions Now Living Will Never Die, but I hope to soon.

I have a bunch of booklets, too, but I haven't taken inventory lately on how many of those are in my collection. I know it's over 20.

I've only read a little here and there. What I'm most interested in is various editions or printings of the books. The Harp of God went through changes in cover style and content from the time of first publication until it went out of print. As a bookseller and book collector, these things interest me.

In fact, if anyone has any publication trivia (cover styles, bindings, misprints, etc.), I'd love to hear about it. I'd really like to know what that odd coating on the Rutherford books is -- the stuff that comes off if it gets wet. It seems to be almost a type of paint laid over the cloth.

Cathy

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Confidential Elders meetings, HA!

by restrangled in

my father was and elder and i remember him coming home from elder's meetings telling my mother all.

we lived in a small house so all could hear through the heating vents what was happening at the kh.

i learned more than i ever cared to know about at a young age.

cathyk

This is a lot different from my experience with confession in the Catholic Church. Not only is the priest unable to discuss what you tell him under the seal of the confessional with ANYONE else, he can't even discuss it with YOU unless you give him permission.

I didn't realize this, even as a cradle Catholic. One time I wanted to discuss something I'd mentioned during confession just the previous day, and the priest said, "Refresh my memory." At the time I thought he was oddly forgetful -- not a usual thing for him. Now I know better.

Are there no penalties for elders who break confidentiality?

Cathy

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"Theocratic Warfare" - An Apostate Strategy?

by slimboyfat in

who here had ever heard of this so-called 'doctrine' of "theocratic warfare" when you were a jehovah's witness?

who has not heard of the so-called doctrine now that you are an apostate?

so why have witnesses never heard of 'doctrine', yet apostates seem to promote it as the last word on witness standards of honesty, integrity and decency?

cathyk

Okay. I've got a zipped file with jpgs of the pages. It was a large-format magazine, so I had to do the pages in pieces. I stitched page 1 together, but had problems doing it with the other two and wound up with a fuzzy mess. You'll just have to read pages 2 & 3 in halves. :-)

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Looking for JW books

by SPARKRL in

i've been visiting this site for awhile now and have been fascinated by many of the posts.

i have an aunt in arkansas who has been trying for decades to get me into the fellowship of the watchtower.

in this course of time i have become very interested in the wts and their publications, but have yet to fall into their system of thought.. i for the past couple of years have attempted, unsuccessfully, to have them send me the awake and watchtower publications.

cathyk

That's "send," not "sent". Gosh, I hate when I do that ...

Cathy Koenig

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Looking for JW books

by SPARKRL in

i've been visiting this site for awhile now and have been fascinated by many of the posts.

i have an aunt in arkansas who has been trying for decades to get me into the fellowship of the watchtower.

in this course of time i have become very interested in the wts and their publications, but have yet to fall into their system of thought.. i for the past couple of years have attempted, unsuccessfully, to have them send me the awake and watchtower publications.

cathyk

I operate Old Lighthouse Books, an online bookstore specializing in used, rare, and out-of-print books on religion, including Watchtower literature. I have other subjects, too, but that's the main focus of the store -- "Old Light."

If you have specific issues of the WT or Awake! magazine in mind, I have some duplicates that I could sent for free (just one or two, please). I also have a lot of the more recent hardcover books that have underlining or are otherwise beat up. I don't have a list made up. Just send me a list of what you're looking for. I would be willing to send individual titles to people who need them for research.

All I ask is a contribution toward the postage, payable to [email protected] on PayPal.

Cathy Koenig

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have you heard of accusations of ex witnesses starting their own church?

by candidlynuts in

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a comment from a family member about an elder who quit attending meetings the other day was " oh they dont attend anymore, i dont think they're df'd but its known they started their own church".

ok so i didnt think much about it..other than it doesnt seem the sort of thing this fella would ever do.. .

but..today i read a story on freeminds ( will look for the link in a bit and will post it).

cathyk

LDH,

They've, um, revised their calculations and come up with a 98% chance for a nuclear hit on midtown Manhattan on June 30th:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/prweb/20060619/bs_prweb/prweb400595_3

I'd better go warn my relatives ... It could really put a crimp in my brother's day.

Cathy

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"Theocratic Warfare" - An Apostate Strategy?

by slimboyfat in

who here had ever heard of this so-called 'doctrine' of "theocratic warfare" when you were a jehovah's witness?

who has not heard of the so-called doctrine now that you are an apostate?

so why have witnesses never heard of 'doctrine', yet apostates seem to promote it as the last word on witness standards of honesty, integrity and decency?

cathyk

cathy....Is it possible if you could please scan it and post it online? (Or email it to me) The NYDN archive only goes back to 1997 and Lexis Nexis does not have this paper

Sure; I'll try to have it up ASAP.

The reporter went on a Bethel tour and asked questions of the Bethelites she came across.

I had a similar experience in the early 1980s, when I took a tour of the factories. I was lucky in that I was the only person there asking for a tour, and it was pretty obvious that I wasn't a JW. They scared up a nice girl named Wendy to take me around, since the regular tour guides weren't available.

It was great! Since she wasn't usually a tour guide and didn't have the spiel memorized, she let the factory workers give me the tour by answering questions about their work. I talked to a typesetter (He was typesetting the "Bible Stories" book in Greek -- he told me not to tell anyone, since it was supposed to be announced later on! He was gorgeous, too ... sigh), an ink and paint maker, a cabinet maker, and various other folks. Wendy was simply lovely. She was working in the then-new computer section. I often wonder where she is now.

Cathy

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"Theocratic Warfare" - An Apostate Strategy?

by slimboyfat in

who here had ever heard of this so-called 'doctrine' of "theocratic warfare" when you were a jehovah's witness?

who has not heard of the so-called doctrine now that you are an apostate?

so why have witnesses never heard of 'doctrine', yet apostates seem to promote it as the last word on witness standards of honesty, integrity and decency?

cathyk

Thanks, Pete. It turns out that I have the magazine in question. It was in the July 31, 1988 issue of the [NY] Daily News Magazine.

Cathy

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Comments You Will Not Hear at the 6-11-06 WT Study (SHEPHERDS 2)

by blondie in

http://www.randytv.com/secret/unitednations.htm (united nations issue).

jehovah trains--not jesus?.

his flock--not jesus?.

cathyk

Hey, cathyk, I think I have seen your website out on Google.

Yes, but which one? I had the "Watchtower Collectors' Corner," which I can no longer keep up with because of family and business matters. I've gone into the used/antiquarian book business, which is the other website that turns up on Google: Old Lighthouse Books. Collecting the JW literature got me interested in book collecting in general. I specialize in religion, but I've got other topics covered as well.

I sent you a PM on the fact that this change happened in 2000 about the same time several more WTS corporations were formed ostensibly to make it harder to sue. I was thinking too of days long ago, when the CO said that JWs were not publishers of books, that the WTS did that, that JWs were publishers of the good news. Evidently, they no longer think that way. It was strange the first time I saw that in a WT article, attriibuting a publication or a quote "published by Jehovah’s Witnesses." So starting in 2000 till now, you will not find "published by the WTS" in an article.

That's the part that amuses me. I wonder how long it will be before they change the wording on the copyright page to match the usage in the magazines? It would seem to be the next necessary step in building the fence against lawsuits.

Cathy Koenig

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"Theocratic Warfare" - An Apostate Strategy?

by slimboyfat in

who here had ever heard of this so-called 'doctrine' of "theocratic warfare" when you were a jehovah's witness?

who has not heard of the so-called doctrine now that you are an apostate?

so why have witnesses never heard of 'doctrine', yet apostates seem to promote it as the last word on witness standards of honesty, integrity and decency?

cathyk

Peacefulpete,

You wouldn't happen to remember about what year that article was published?

Everyone Else,

Does anyone have a link to it or a copy of it?

Cathy Koenig