Posts by sinis

  • sinis
    22

    Books and letters that are not part of the Bible

    by sinis in
    1. watchtower
    2. bible

    been reading the apocraphyls (sp?

    ) as well as a book that contains books and letters that were not included in the bible.

    the whole thing is very interesting.

    1. Terry
    2. Shining One
    3. Terry
  • sinis
    sinis

    Been reading the Apocraphyls (sp?) as well as a book that contains books and letters that were not included in the bible. The whole thing is very interesting. In reading these books I have come to the conclusion that early christians did not believe what the current WTS teaches. Enoch talks about visiting a place where the dead spirits of mankind are kept until the judgment and how there is no judgment on the flesh at death but the spirit is judged. Then I have been reading the letters such as Thomas and Philip, etc. on the birth of jesus, the father and the holy spirit. The whole thing sounds like a family arrangement. The father, son, holy spirit (which is referred to as a woman in the letters). Phillip denounces a virgin birth, etc. The whole thing flips the WTS teachings upside down. I have always wondered if we have a spirit that lives on, and I am tending to believe we do. I have always wondered why I could sin ahainst god, and the son and be forgiven but not the Holy Spirit. If the HS was just gods energy than how could I sin against it/her/him? Makes no sense. These letters and books, I feel add to the bible and round the whole thing out. Some terms in the accepted bible make much more sense when reading these non cannical letters and books. Gee why do the witnesses use a bible that was edited by the ones they consider to be Babylon the Great while the whole time agreeing with the early churches view on what books were to be accepted and which were not. Some accepted books were in fact later dumped by the church. Seems to me there is some information hiding going on.

  • LDH
    23

    A modern day CASTE system

    by LDH in
    1. jw
    2. friends

    where do you rank?

    unbaptised publisher?.

    publisher?.

    1. Dune
    2. troubled mind
    3. LDH
  • sinis
    sinis

    Where do you rank?

    Bible Student, unbaptised publisher, publisher, Auxiliary pioneer, Regular pioneer, Ministerial Servant, Unbelieving Mate, Apostate, Worldly

  • Saoirse
    42

    Elders Burst Into My Friends Home Uninvited/ Warning to Vegas JW Ladies

    by Saoirse in
    1. jw
    2. friends

    i have a friend that hasn't been to a meeting in over a year.

    she recently got a divorce from her abusive jw spouse.

    he beat her up and tore down a door in front of several people.

    1. MidwichCuckoo
    2. badboy
    3. zagor
  • sinis
    sinis
    Hi,

    What I would do is file a restraining order against those two elders warning them not come near me or my son again. Then I'd file another one against the loser ex husband. Under no circumstances would I agree to answer or meet with anyone from the WTS.

    YC

    I would do the same, I would also send the restraining order to the WTS with a letter from an attorney spelling out what there elders did.

  • Saoirse
    42

    Elders Burst Into My Friends Home Uninvited/ Warning to Vegas JW Ladies

    by Saoirse in
    1. jw
    2. friends

    i have a friend that hasn't been to a meeting in over a year.

    she recently got a divorce from her abusive jw spouse.

    he beat her up and tore down a door in front of several people.

    1. MidwichCuckoo
    2. badboy
    3. zagor
  • sinis
    sinis

    Damn, had that been me I guess the police would have shown up to two dead bodies as that constitutes home invasion. She may want to report it to the police as a home invasion. Tell them she was in fear of her life. Ask them what she can do to prevent this in the future.

  • PaNiCAtTaCk
    37

    anyone here ever go on a cruise with a large group of JW's?

    by PaNiCAtTaCk in
    1. jw
    2. friends

    ive been on two cruises in the early 90's with large amounts of witnesses.

    one cruise we had around 85 and the other 175. one night on the larger jw cruise there were 50 or so of us watching this comedian.

    he started getting a little crude using words like penis so we all got up at the same time and walked out during his act.

    1. DaCheech
    2. minimus
    3. greendawn
  • sinis
    sinis

    I'll never forget the time that a brothers neices came down from Wisconsin. They were ok looking but one former Bethalite (who was not the best looking - plus he always had his panties in a knot) wanted to take one of them out. So he gets together a group and says we should all go to the drive inn. Everyone was like well ok. (group I hung around were not saints and thought this get together might be ok, since girls were going). We show up at the drive inn and it was a double "bengie" feature - Bengie:come home and Bengie: the hunted. Movies were lamer than shit and absolutly no talking, just a dog running around. These girls were like WTF did you bring us to. So the rest of us after a while were like we are out of here. He was begging us to stay since he needed a chapparon (sp?). He was the biggest snitch in the cong so we told him we were all going home. We ended up cruising around and going to parties that night Those sisters from wisconsin said they wanted to "go home" as well (after overhearing some of us planning our escape) but after we left they said thanks - they couldn't take that shit anymore. Hahaha

  • PaNiCAtTaCk
    37

    anyone here ever go on a cruise with a large group of JW's?

    by PaNiCAtTaCk in
    1. jw
    2. friends

    ive been on two cruises in the early 90's with large amounts of witnesses.

    one cruise we had around 85 and the other 175. one night on the larger jw cruise there were 50 or so of us watching this comedian.

    he started getting a little crude using words like penis so we all got up at the same time and walked out during his act.

    1. DaCheech
    2. minimus
    3. greendawn
  • sinis
    sinis

    No, but I have been at a movie theater with a group and they showed some nudity and some were talking of leaving. The straw that broke the camals back was when the movie briefly got a little "mystic" and they all got up and left like Satan was right there with them. I was like where are you going? I would have stayed but the pressure and looks were too much (damn what a waste of money).

  • TheOldHippie
    21

    Number of pioneers down 27 % ? No no no !

    by TheOldHippie in
    1. watchtower
    2. beliefs

    i failed to find the thread right now, but there was a thread as to the 2005 annual report, and it was stated that the number of pioneers had dwindled from 858,461 to 623,308 - 27 %.

    and comments were made on how little the society cared etc.

    but, had yoy bothered to look closely at the figures (perhaps you've been well trained in sloppy statistics and misrepresenting by a certain group from before ......), you would have noticed thatthe column for pioneers this year has been divided in two - one for auxilliary pioneers and one for regular pioneers.

    1. LDH
    2. Farkel
    3. TheOldHippie
  • sinis
    sinis

    Anyone know how many Special Pioneers, Missionaries, and traveling oveerseers there are? The footnote at the bottom of the stat sheet says $104 million was spent during 2005 for these people. Anyone know what that would break down to per person?