Posts by sinis

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...a mere young child will play at the hole of a Cobra

by sinis in

looks like these folks are getting a headstart on bible prophecy.... http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d3b_1178524471.

sinis

Looks like these folks are getting a headstart on Bible prophecy...

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d3b_1178524471

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So I finally broke the ice with my fiancee....

by R.F. in

for those of you that don't know, i've recently had many doubts about the org and realized that i can't just let them go.

the thing was however, that i was nervous as to how my fiancee would react when i would make my doubts known to her.

so.....i finally talked to her today and it went a little something like this.......... i started with us reading together acts.

Why is her mother and her wanting to move all of a sudden? Sounds like an ultimatum. I would be VERY leary, and would not rush into what equates to a used car salesman saying, "price is only good for today". Personally, you might want to look for a nice, non fanatic christian woman, probably a catholic, as they don't put a whole lot of time or energy into their beliefs.

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Is it proper for men to tip their hats to women?

by ThomasCovenant in

apologies if you all have read this before.. watchtower 1952 15th april pages 254-256. it is the woman that is commanded to show respect and recognition of the mans position of headship, and women who rebel at it are not so much rebelling against men as they are against god.gen.

3:16; 1 cor.

11:2-10; eph.

sinis

My question is: Who the hell wears hats anymore?
Warlock

I do, keeps the sun off your head - does a boony hat count?

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GOLDEN AGE (AWAKE!) crackpot "Truth" from the faithful and discreet slave

by Terry in

we do well to bear in mind that among the drugs, serums, vaccines, surgical operations, etc., of the medical profession, there is nothing of value save an occasional surgical proceedure.

their so-called "science" grew out of egyptian black magic and has not lost its demonological character.... we shall be in a sad plight when we place the welfare of the race in their hands.

the journal of the a. m. a. is the vilest sheet that passes the united states mail.... nothing new and useful in theraputics escapes its unqualified condemnation.

sinis

Has anyone written the society to see what they say about past "truths"? I'd like to see how they explain there way out of that...

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Isn't God Awesome?

by Perry in

http://wonderofitall.com/

sinis

Jesus Christ, I thought I was going to grow mold watching that painfully slow video...

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Attention former elders and ms: I have a question.

by R.F. in

i'm currently a ministerial servant and pioneer in my congregation.

i want to begin my fade soon.

i'm going to get off the pioneer list first instead of quitting both positions at once, hopefully to ease potential gossip.

sinis

You're engaged right?
Just tell the elders that you need to focus on your relationship with your fiance right now. Tell them you've been handling too much and you don't want to burn out. And that you can't wait until you can serve on the body and pioneer in the future.
Whatever reason you give don't be too specific and don't take anyone's bait for badmouthing the witnesses. It may be your own father or best friend that is trying to find out your real feelings or reasons.
Also, you must let your fiance know that you intend on not being a ministerial servant or pioneer. She has a right to know.
Good luck.

In my book this is NUMBER ONE. Not so much because she has the right to know but because witness girls save their entire life searching for the perfect RP, MS, Elder, Bethel person. You may go from hero to zero, once she finds out - which will quickly let you know she was not in love with YOU but your TITLE and POSITION. If this is the case I would run away fast, as you can start to expect the rumors to start. Also fading out with a devote Jdub fiance may not work unless they are in the same boat as you, if they are not and you get married expect the shit storm to follow...

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my "father" decided to send me an email!

by theinfamousone in

before we even begin, if you have not read my story, you may not understand why this is such a big deal to me... this is a part of my story and it can be found at: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/7/101870/1.ashx.

and here we go... my "father", an abusive bastard of a jw, recently sent me an email that put me in a tizzy!

it was late friday night, i had just gotten home from a shift at a local bar where i bartend on occasion!

sinis

The e-mail you got from you Dad sounds like a manipulative attempt to hurt you. People like this are toxic and do not deserve to be a part of our lives. One day you will be able to forgive and move forward. This will be a relief because then he can't hurt you anymore. This forgiveness does not have to mean talking to him though. It does not sound like he deserves that.
I am sorry you are going through this. Everyone seems to have a "toxic" person somewhere in or out of their lives, so you will have others who share your misery at least in part.

The only problem I see with that train of thought is that YOU still allow the other person to have power over you until that "day" comes. Let it go, move on, and break the chains...

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So I finally broke the ice with my fiancee....

by R.F. in

for those of you that don't know, i've recently had many doubts about the org and realized that i can't just let them go.

the thing was however, that i was nervous as to how my fiancee would react when i would make my doubts known to her.

so.....i finally talked to her today and it went a little something like this.......... i started with us reading together acts.

sinis

Thanks.
I wasn't even sure what I was going to say to her. Actually, I didn't even plan on saying anything to her today but something told me to do it today and it seemed to come out easily. One thing that has me excited and quite anxious is the grin she gave me today for a second after we were done addressing this. I've been around her long enough to differentiate certain grins she has lol. Today she had the, "I've been feeling the same way but didn't say anything" grin. She's already fed up with the hypocrisy in the cong, and she's even more fed up with the elders. To top it off, as I mentioned earlier, she said she has some questions and concerns over some doctrinal things as well. Hopefully this could be the kicker to get her to REALLY thinking. I just want her to think long and hard about what she is being taught. It would hurt me deeply if I were to lose her to the WTS. Now the thing is to think of which point of interest to subtlely bring to her attention next and when.

Hopefully, and eventually, your quest for knowledge will lead you to the conclusion that organized religion is false, as is the bible. If you can take anything away with you from the bible, take jesus words which indicate that you should love god and your neighbor - that is basically it wrapped in a shell. Nothing more nothing less. Eventually you will awaken from your sleep and realize that god is in everything and everyone, and how its silly for humans to think that god "needs" us to do his bidding. God, if he, it, or them exists, which I think he does, but not in the fashion that the bible limits him to, wants you to enjoy life to its fullest. If you really think about the golden rule and adhere to it, the sky is the limit...

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my "father" decided to send me an email!

by theinfamousone in

before we even begin, if you have not read my story, you may not understand why this is such a big deal to me... this is a part of my story and it can be found at: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/7/101870/1.ashx.

and here we go... my "father", an abusive bastard of a jw, recently sent me an email that put me in a tizzy!

it was late friday night, i had just gotten home from a shift at a local bar where i bartend on occasion!

sinis

Good or bad, I'm sure your father provided for you while growing up. Sometimes, people don't treat others the way they should, either because they don't know how or they think what they are doing is correct.
it has been stated before, but i will reiterate that providing for someone does not make up for the shit he put me through! you obviously did not read my story, which is definitely ok, but you later went on and said, would you rather be an orphan? well, i am an orphan! i was adopted by a monster, who one day talks to me like he did in this email, then the next day takes a swing at me for talking to my sister... the man is completely imbalanced and i am wondering if he is delusional, or if he is schizophrenic... either way, he treats everyone else just fine, but always has cutting words and punches to throw... i see no need to put myself into the kind of danger i was once in... and will not until the man is willing to admit he did wrong and not just remember "the good times" of which there were very few...
at this point, i have forgiven, i have put it behind me, but i have not grown stupid. he was not apologizing, he was taking a shot
the infamous one

Fair enough. I apologize that I did not read your account. Have you ever wondered why he seems to "hate you"? Maybe its not you, but a chemical/mental imbalance. LIek I said not making excuses but there is always a reason for something. Sounds like you don't want to make contact, which is completely up to you. If that is the case then perhaps you should reply to his email and kindly tell him not to contact you anymore. Depending on your email provider you can more than likely block his emails from coming to you.

Just to let you know, I did grow up in a abusive household fraught with divorce and hatred. Only recently have I made amends with my bio father and step mother, though I do keep my distance from my stepmother.

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my "father" decided to send me an email!

by theinfamousone in

before we even begin, if you have not read my story, you may not understand why this is such a big deal to me... this is a part of my story and it can be found at: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/7/101870/1.ashx.

and here we go... my "father", an abusive bastard of a jw, recently sent me an email that put me in a tizzy!

it was late friday night, i had just gotten home from a shift at a local bar where i bartend on occasion!

sinis

While I'm sure you meant well by what you said, unless you have grown up with an abusive father, the above sentence doesnt mean s%&t. Being a provider does NOT cancel out all the hurt and pain that his father heaped apon him. To read that sentence just made me angry. Being a provider does not excuse beatings, nor does it make the beatings less severe, it means NOTHING. I would rather have a father that was dirt poor and than have a father that beat me.
The ONLY THING that brought me closure was to have a frank and honest discussion face to face with my father, where I didnt point fingers, I just simply told him how he made me feel when I was a child. I told him that I do not hate the person he is now, BUT, I hated the person he was, and that I wished he was dead. I wished that my mother had called the cops, and I wished that he went to prison so that he could not hurt us any longer. I told him that he was a horrible father, but that there were some good times, but they did not soothe when he went on his angry rampages. I told him that his beatings left me with nightmares into ym adult life, and that I went to therapy for it. I told him everything that was in my heart.
He cried, and said sorry, and was genuinely sorry. I hugged him, and I forgave him, and my heart no longer carried any anger or hatred for him...I told him that I forgave him and that I loved him, and I felt so much relief to be able to forgive him....
I hope that you can have a conversation with your father, or at least write it all out on paper and send it to him....he needs to know how his beatings affected you. It is only fair and it is only right. even if he doesnt say sorry, at least you said your peace, and you can let the anger go on your own terms, and take back your power.
~f

...and you'd rather be an orphan? No one said it excused beatings, but it does count for something and beats an orphanage, or going to bed hungry, or without clothes or a roof over your head. At what point does a person keep the pain inside them instead of letting go? Life sucks for most people on this planet - try starving to death in a third world country, or being part of the sex trade at 5 years old, or toting an AK and shooting people in some shit hole. Now I'm not making excuses for a bad childhood, but think about how others have lived or live before judging people - things could be better, but they could be a hell of a lot worse.

It seems he is a grown adult. At what point do you get past the past? When your on your death bed? When his dad is on his? Like I said. memories can fade but are not forgotten. At least try to resolve issues while you or the other party are still breathing and use the life opportunity as a lesson...