Posts by jimakazi

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GHOSTS, seen any lately?

by Blueblades in

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haunted places, haunted houses, haunted people, have you had a true encounter with the world beyond?

i only read about it, i never experienced any of it.

anyone want to share their experiences, outside of halloween of course.

We have a "presence" in our house. We call it "our friend". Our firend pulls on door handles, turns on appliences, make footsteps in the hall way, and crys sometimes at night, once hidding my copy of the "Black House" [like put it down, turn and it was gone, to turn up in the ceiling level cubbord that has my Penthouse collection] which showed good taste as it's a sick book. Our firend apparently makes calls to us [no one home, caller ID shows the call from our house, alarm condition shows no one was there]. Once it slammed a door [hard] and there was only me and my kids in the house, sitting at the table looking at the door. In one room TV's flick on and off [with no probelm to the power supply] such that we gave one TV away as broken, and took the new one for repair where no fault was found - my wife and I concluded it was "our friend" and it's stopped messing with the TV.

This can sometime give even me the shivers when I talk about it outisde the house, but our home house has a wonderful feeling, it's not scary at all,and neither my wife or I have any reluctance being here on our own. Mos tpeople who visit comment what a great house it is - yet it is so like many others. A friend who senses sprits feels it is the lost soul of a child and has offered to help it find the light.

We are not sure what to do, so for now have selected to do nothing. We are plaaning to rennovate so i've elft the plans in the lounge to check they meet iour friends approval.

I've told my devout JW parents about this and trhey just don't know what to say - mum has no problems at all [I can see dad is thinking "demon"].

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Spirit Directed

by Smiles_Smiles in

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and i just wanted to know if i am the only one that felt that 'spirit' led them into the jw and the same 'spirit' led them out of jws???

a bit confused but loveing every minute of the peace,.

jimakazi

Parents led me in, seemed OK until I got older and started to think for myself - my power of rational thought led me out.

Don't under rate yourself, I'm sure you have some free will [although it might appear very damaged after prolonged exposure to the JW's].

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I'm new to the forum and desperate for support

by muse in

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i will be very brief on my introduction as i need to get straight to the point.

i was raised in the 'truth' from birth.

i got baptized at 16 (elder dad hassled me) and managed to do the 'slow fade' at 18 (it helped that i moved 50 miles away from home).

jimakazi

Hi Muse

I guess I have just been through a similar situation, my mother needed cancer surgery and there was way she would have blood. [Interestingly the surgon wanted to know which type of JW they were, aparently there are those that will and those that won't]. The surgon repsected that they were of the "won't" variety. The medical liason committee provided some additional imformation the medical team asked for, and that was it. There was no talk at all of the medical committee being at the hospital.

Anyway the surgery went well, and they called mum wonder woman because of her rapid recovery [shes in her mid 60's].

At the end of the day any faith is just that, belief without evidence, and as such logical reasoning will not work, so you really only have one chice which is to respect your mum's choice, however nervous you may feel about it. Just let her know that you will support her as your mum no matter what her decision is.

Good luck

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What's The Stupidest Thing You've Ever Done?

by minimus in

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jimakazi

When it come to stupid I can't just state one - there are so many....

[1] Getting baptised

[2] Getting baptised to be allowed to date a baptised sister [siad she couldn't date an unbaptised witness], who then wouldn't go out with me anyway, and was DF'd shortly after for having a worldly boyfriend.

[2] Breaking up with my new worldly girlfriend because my dad had just been made an elder [he did a guilt trip thing on me].

[3] Not getting busy with the many attractive women who wanted to corupt a nice innocent JW boy [many years ago].

[4] Not going to university

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needs some opinions & advices

by cookiegirlie in

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i've read some posts here and i could see that you were helping each other so i thought i could post & maybe get some answers :-).

i've known the jws since i was little my mom was going to the kingdom hall but then we stopped cos our life was too complicated and we didn't have time for that thought we kept studying at home with a jw as i got older ( teen years ) i hated the study book but never told my mom or anybody i didn't wanted to hurt my mom i love her so much!.

a few years ago i finally told my mom that i hated to read thoses books because i get so bored & that i wasn't interested in it , i do believe in jehovah's and jesus' existence thought but i so hate what the org ask us to do like don't dress like that , go to meetings .... first reaction i got from my mom was so you wanna die but then after a long talk she understood , no matter what i'll love her forever.

jimakazi

Hi cookiegirl

You need to stop living for your mum and live your own life. I stayed in the JW's for an additional 3 years after I wanted to get out - to avoid dissapointing my parents, and it never gets easier. I know it's hard but you need to be brave and set some limits. Go out when the witnesses come, find some alternative activities.

If you carefully check out some of the less emotive and angry threads here there is some sound stuff on why the JW's can not be right, so that should pretty much convince you that the "death threats" are just a nasty little ruse to instill fear in those who might express doubts - do not fall for it.

God luck.

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Eagerness To Shun Bound To Fade

by Englishman in

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my own parents gave up shunning me after i was disfellowshipped.

they kept it up for about 3 years and then just sort of gradually folded.

here in wsm, most of the witnesses who remember me can't be arsed with the shunning thang any more.

jimakazi

Family members can still associate with family members but should avoid spritiual fellowship, so when the non JW's get home form the meeting you wouldn't chat about about the great meeting, you could talk about work, cars, news etc.

A JW wife still has to obey her DF'd husband as head of the house, and show respect, as do any children [except where he goes against the JW's like saying don't go to the meeting.. They could not up and leave unless the husband was engaged in conduct that is grounds for divorce.

I know there are JW's who go to extremes but they are out of line, and their conduct should be raised with the elders if this is the case [hey they might get DF'd too!]

The JW religion definately is seriously flawed, but sometime I do wonder if a few of the posters here are really ex JW's, or just people with a big chip on their shoulder messing with those who are still JW's who frequent the site.

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Did you ever get a speeding ticket or make an accident, serving Jehovah?

by JH in

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i know an elder who made a couple of accidents and scrapped his car more than once going to the kingdom hall or assembly hall out of town.

i guess that the angels weren't looking after him that day.... i even remember a brother making an accident with another brother in the field service...lol.

jimakazi

[1] Returning from rural field service, and as I passed a tractor it turned without indicationg into the side of our car. No one hurt but car opend up like a sardine tin [perhaps we should have continued for one more door?]

[2] On rural field service and my friend lost it on a gravel road and munted a bank [not speeding].

[3] Going to an assembly, doing 180kph, my brother driving my car [this was in our rebel days]. After some time we noticed a motorcycle that was not vanishing into the distance, slowed down to the legal limit [80kph at the time]. The motocycle cop pulled us over, told my beother it was his lucky day, and let him off with a warning.

Now I hadn't thought of angels helping get off that ticket, my explanation was the cop was gay and fancied my brother!

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JWs and the wolves in sheep's clothing

by greendawn in

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we correctly believe that the wts is the proverbial wolf in sheep's clothing they talk in a way that makes them appear to be genuinely interested in helping people spiritually (the sheep's clothing) but we then find that they are power intoxicated individuals whose real concern is to abuse and exploit the flock (the real wolf like rapacity)they throw out of the org members for trying to offer constructive criticism they put lots of onerous burdens on their members and do nothing practical to help them, they systematically lie and deceive.

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how would you elaborate on this subject to prove to a person interested in the jws that they are indeed devilish imposters.

jimakazi

Greendawn;

The problem is that the basic JW publisher believes that it is "the TRUTH" 90% of the time. The other 10% have visited this site and know better :)

The basic JW published is not allowed to think [independant thinking is discouraged as it can lead to an apostate state of mind], they are in fact sheep [trust me sheep have a very trusting nature and are easily led]; wolves on the other hand are cunning and think quiet well, in this case the so called Governing body may well be the wolves.

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Apologies for JW shunning

by greendawn in

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you disassociated or got disfellowshipped and the jws were shunning you.

but then some of them went down the same road as you later.

did they then approach you as ex-jws and apologise for the way they had treated you, and what exactly did they have to say?

jimakazi

One of my firends was DF'd many years ago [OK heaps were], and while I would still say hi [in passing] we didn't have anything to do with her and over the years lost contact.

I decided to look her up the other day and found that it was too late - she had died of cancer a few years earlier. Her brother [also DF'd] apparently has cancer. I am now trying to locate him.

I am now determined to find out what happend to all my old DF'd friends.

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Why do active witnesses frequent the site?

by jimakazi in

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i'm somewhat currious why active witnesses appear to frequent the site, and if the information on this site causes any to "fade away" or "dis-associate"?.

personally if i have known 18 years ago what i know now i would have been a lot more active in trying to convince all i cared about to leave, instead of fading away [gone with a bang so to speak].

it's funny how when you are in it you can't see it for what it is.

jimakazi

Hi Ballistic

Prior to watching the most worldly one of our age group [an elders son] get appointed as an MS I was one of those poor deceived "truthful" witnesses. I didn't want to beleive that a show of works [so he could date an elders daughter] would work. Our 'trick' was to emulate his example - and it worked. I'm glad it got me thinking, if the internet can get others thinking thats great.

Actually my question is retorical; if active witnesses are visitng this site they must already have the dreaded "appostate" state of mind, certainly they are not following the advice to avoid the internet, so are already straying so to speak. If they have viewed this and other similar sites, and assuming something gets through years of "bible study", how can they with a clear concience still preach?

Using the word study in association with what the JW's do is an insult to all who actually study. Scripted questions, that have obvious answers in the related text, with no oportunity to explore beyond those bounds is not study. It is very effective brain washing, which when combined with the frequent association with other JW's, and issolation from the world, works all too well. When combined with constant reminders to just trust Jehovah and an ever brightening light, and the fear of now loosing your remaining friends [curouasly they are soon almost exlusively other JW's], and any family who may also belong, you are locked in even if you have doubts.

Even now people who basically havn't been witnesses for years are afraid of being identified, in case the JW's formally disfellowship them, and make any relationship with remaing JW family more difficult. How sad.