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  Does the WTS disfellowship mentally challenged people?

  by Elsewhere in

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  has anyone ever seen a situation where the wts disfellowhiped someone who is autistic, retarded or otherwise mentally challenged?.

  i wonder if the elders give them more leeway knowing that they are not always capable of making decisions as well as a normal person.. .

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  No - the mentally challenged are still faithful members.
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  Any Lefties?

  by Why Georgia in

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  my oldest son is left handed.

  everytime he does anything different from the rest of us.....my husband relates this to being left handed.. he is very artistic, detailed, and extremely particular about how he wants things in his little world to be.. this may be because he's 5 - who knows.. are there any traits of left handed people that you lefties may want to share so i can be prepared in the future?.

  thanks in advance,.

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  Another leftie here.

  Yes I'm artistic, I am best visually so do big enterprise architecture diagrams and work and ENJOY it.

  Scisors are annoying, the new ones with shaped handels that are fine for right handed people but instruments of tourture for lefties.

  basically it's no big deal - don't worry - be happy.
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  small children seeing ghosts and hearing voices

  by moanzy in

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  does anyone have any experience with this or know what is happening?.

  moanzy

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  supernatural superstition bunk

  tetrapod;

  I can see you feel strongly about this but it's a little harsh, obviously you havn't had anything unexplainable happen to you. Others have. Seeing a health professional may be a good idea - but if it's real then you just distroy the childs trust in adults - there a good start to life some shrink twelling your parents that the kid has a altered sense of reality and should be on some nice little calming drug [and visit them regualrly of couser for the rest of their natural lives].

  My wife and I have experienced strange stuff in the Philippines that had no rational explantion. It was spooky as and despite not wanting to beleive I had to open myself to the idea of there being more than I or documented science could explain. Which doesn't mean it won't be explained in the future - but certainly not by closed minded "educated" health professionals with a motive to maintain their own practices.

  In our 1959 house we have had some strange things happen - but apart from 1 incident this year it has only been my wife and notice them. It's a little hard to dispell hearing what you assume are the running footstep of your kids playing way past their bed time, hearing the step dissapear round the corner, see no one there and then look in their room to see your kids are SOUND ASLEEP in BED. The incident this year was in the Kitchen after school, my kids were having an snack at the table, I was standing at the sink - we all saw the kitchen door go from full open to slammed shut hard enough to shake the house. No windows open, no draft until the door slammed. Was this collective insanity? My kids looked at me dumb founded - who did that? I suggested the wind, neither was buying it.

  So I don't know about encouraging it, but keep an open mind.
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  Wife's weight problem

  by dangel in

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  i amlooking for advice.

  before getting married, my wife was slim and took care of herself.

  after the wedding however, she started to eat much more and not exercise.

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  Possible boredom? Does she have a career or is she at home all the time.

  How about selling her on a healthy eating plan for you and her? It's so much easier if you both east the same food.

  I've found i can loose weight if I eat a reduced carb diet, but my wife & kids loves rice [she doesn't have a wieght problem, I do] so either we prepare 2 separate meals or i stay bigger than I want. Currently I bigger than I want.
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  What words and phrases do Brits and others see as 'American'?

  by sonnyboy in

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  as an american, i see words such as cheerio, blimey, bloody (when referring to something negative), loo, bugger, fag (cigarette), etc.

  as chiefly british (i suppose they are).. what words and/or phrases do you consider to be chiefly american?

  i'm honestly unaware of which words i use that may not be used in other english-speaking countries.

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  "I'll be back" "I have no recollection of that"

  "MacDonalds" "Fries" "Fast food" "Junk food" "Shopping Malls"

  "Collatoral damage" "Acceptable loses" "Friendly Fire" "Take that hill"

  "The fifth admendment" "I did not have sexual relations with that woman" "Gangsta Rap" "Breast implants" "Lawsuite"
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  The Mosaic Law and JW's

  by jimakazi in

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  jesus did away with the mosaic law.. .

  on this basis jw's eat pork if they wish, do not have to maintain a beard, and do not observe the sabbath.. .

  however the jw's seem to apply aspects of the mosaic law when it suits them - for instance they often quote it to support their postion on blood.

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  Hi Greendawn

  I feel you are right - but it makes another nice point to raise with any JW who is silly enough to try to preach to us.
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  A cavers perspective [should be 'Friends' forum]

  by jimakazi in

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  i rememeber a trip with my parents to the waitomo caves in nz when i was about 10. when the guide spoke of how slowly the caves formed, how old they were, my parent were shaking their heads with the knowing superioirty of jw truth.

  what they beleived was the very limestone had been created by the flood compessing the sea bed under all that extra water, as had all the coal deposits etc.

  i started wild caving when i was 15 years old.

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  I rememeber a trip with my parents to the Waitomo caves in NZ when i was about 10. When the guide spoke of how slowly the caves formed, how old they were, my parent were shaking their heads with the knowing superioirty of JW truth. What they beleived was the very limestone had been created by the flood compessing the sea bed under all that extra water, as had all the coal deposits etc.

  I started wild caving when I was 15 years old. These are caves in their wild state, sometimes previously unexplored.

  It didn't take long to start to see things that rasied questions about the age of the earth. Seeing whale bones preserved in the limestone. When exploring for caves we found layers of sea shells, with soil under the shells, on top of hills made of limestone, ccording to my dad these shells were proof of a world wide flood.

  I asked "but Dad then how was the limestone formed - i thought that was suppoese to have been formed in the flood?"

  His reply "Jehovah must have created the limestone before the flood"

  My reply "But Dad you saw the whale bones?", to which he siad "well we don't know for sure they were whale bones".

  OK so I wasn't going to get any sense out of my Dad, the borg could not be wrong so no reasoning based on logic would shake him.

  Finding that there were coal deposits under the Limestone, coal, undistputed old trees and things, hell my own Dad had shown me tree rings in a peice of coal, so my paticular patch of NZ had been above the sea, had vast forrests form, these had been burried and turned to coal, it had gone under the sea, see creaters had formed huge sheets of calcifeid limestome which had risen above the sea, soil had formed, it had then gone under the sea again [of the sea level was 200 feet higher at some point] and put those sheels apon the hills. It didn't take a rocket scientist to work out the whole creative period [which the Witnesses by then thought were 7000 year long each] or a mere 49,000 years just didn't add up. So based upon onservation of the natural enviorment this formerly good little JW boy started to harbour DOUBT. If the JW's could be wrong about this... what else could they be wrong about.

  Interstingly I raised this topic with one of the most genuine JW's I have ever met and he agreed that there was at least 20% he couldn't understand, and that my points were valid, he even rasied points haddent even considered. he talked without fear, with intelligence, and still had faith. His attitude was that he would go on the 80/20 rule, the last 20% was where faith came in. To illustrate how cool this brother was I was staying [he had 3 sons I were friends with] and it was his eldest sons 21'st birthday. About 2pm he brought down a dozen 750ml bottles of cold beer, hugged his son and wished him happy birthday in front of us - we then got to have our 1st quiet birthday party. He expalined later that there was no scriptual reason not to cellebrate a birthday - but he didn't make a big thing of them as it might stumble some who thought birthdays were not Christian. His 3 sons are still JW's too this day. If the JW's had a lot more like him I think it would be a much cooler and tolerable religion.
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  The Mosaic Law and JW's

  by jimakazi in

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  jesus did away with the mosaic law.. .

  on this basis jw's eat pork if they wish, do not have to maintain a beard, and do not observe the sabbath.. .

  however the jw's seem to apply aspects of the mosaic law when it suits them - for instance they often quote it to support their postion on blood.

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  Jesus did away with the mosaic law.
  

  On this basis JW's eat pork if they wish, do not have to maintain a beard, and do not observe the sabbath.

  However the JW's seem to apply aspects of the Mosaic law when it suits them - for instance they often quote it to support their postion on blood. However if the mosaic law does not apply then why refer to the mosaic law at all - if it does provide a guide then maybe bacon should be off the list, beard should be worn and no witness should work on the Sabbath? This is also where they get a lot of their justification for harsh treatment of disfellowshiped people. As has been noted by many the god of Moses was fairly strict, and was quick to have the earth open up and deal to those who didn't agree with him. Jesus preached a Christian message - and it was a lot less restictive than the Mosaic law the Jews had lived under. Turn the other cheek, he who is without sin throw the 1st stone, etc. So once again what is the point of quoting sellected Mosaic law scriture to justify postions that do not appear compatible with the example of Jesus? On blood, I can accept that to eat blood is against Jehovahs wishes - HOWEVER there is a vast difference between someone being hungry and someone about to dies from loss of blood - just as there is a huge difference between eating bllod and a bllod transfussion. Do not the witnesses them selves speak highly of witnesses who have died to save other witnesses? So if a life can be save [not nourished] but saved by a donation of blood from one to another then it would actually seem to be the Chrisitan thing to do.
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  cant i still be with her? just like her parents are?

  by Cimoo in

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  my girfriend and i have been together for a year and a half.

  and shes a jw, and im not.

  she didnt tell me that she was a jw till 1 year of being with her.

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  I was an active [although no longer committed JW] when I met my WORLDLY wife to be. I came under intesnse pressure that she should either became a JW or I should break off my engagement. I refused so we had a civil wedding [she's Catholic and I wasn't going to convert that way] and stopped going to any JW meeting etc [the big fade]. My Dad was reprimanded fro attending our wedding so that pretty much finsihed it for me. 18 years later my parents still don't really accept I'm nop longer one of them, and I have to regularly remind them to not preach to my wife, me, or our kids. However I don't want to be a witness so this works OK - their is tension at time though - no Nana and gradpa at birthdays, xmas etc.

  If your girlfirend can accept there is a life beyound the JW's [and if she is at all open minded checking out some of the facts on JWfacts.com may assist make her mind up] then it may be worth keeping the relationship going.

  However if she wants back in then you may be best to look elsewhere. They may demand she no longer associate with you to prove she has changed her eveil ways, and if you were to marry her 1st, and she went back it would be easier but you would always be the "opposed husband" - JW speak for a non JW husband. Also if and when you had kids there would be further tension and issues, do you want them brought up as JW's, she would have to raise them as JW's in spite of any wishes, you, the opposed husband may have. This could even be grounds for a separation if you insisted they were not to attend meeting, preach door to door etc.
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  We are NOT appostate

  by jimakazi in

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  not to rain on the collective parade but what makes people here think they are appostate?

  most of us have come to a rational conclusion that the jw / wtb is directed by a bunch of old men not directed by the holy spirit, is fallable, and cynically changes doctrine.

  so to be against that is not to be appostate.

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  Jim:
  
  There's a flaw in your analogy. The ones who actually sat the test fail, and those who never attended pass - if we're gonna screw something up, let's do it completely, huh?

  huh?

  Friday group, weekend group, monday group.

  1st group fail [i.e. they didn't sit the exam] - they came on the wrong day

  Weekend group come on the right days sit and pass [well some probably fail]

  The last group [thinking it was Monday] fail as they cannot sit the exam.