The doctrine I still believe is: By this you will know them, if they have love amongst themselves."
Only thing is, now I know what that REALLY means!
even if you have left the jws are there still bits and pieces of the doctrines you still believe?.
what doctrines do you still believe that are taught by the wt?.
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The doctrine I still believe is: By this you will know them, if they have love amongst themselves."
Only thing is, now I know what that REALLY means!
as most of you know in 2002 barbara anderson and bill bowen were on the dateline program which revealed that child abuse victims had been theatened with disfellowshipping from the jehovah's witnesses for reporting child abuse to the police and authorities .
and this actually happened to many victims and their families for standing up in behalf of the safety of abused children !.
most here are aware of the out of court child abuse settlements the wt society made with 16 witness child abuse victims in 2007. a gag order was placed on victims so they would not speak of their experiences with the media.
Every time I tried to talk to the elders about the fact I had been abused sexually by 3 brothers, including 1 elder, I was given, for lack of a better way of saying it - the deer-in-headlights look from the elders I had just told. I was ALWAYS told not to talk about it. I was NEVER told what, if anthing was done about it.
In all cases, the situations were denied, and it became a case of my word against theirs. In the case of one, he ended up doing it to a few other sisters, and he was eventually df'd.
What kills me is, the last assembly held at the Coloseum in Vancouver after I was df'd that I attended, I see one of them walking around with his "attendant" badge on. Here I am df'd for being truthful, he lies, and he has an "attendant" label on. At least he was unable to look me in the eye. It was one more "nail in the coffin" there is no such thing as Jehovah's Holy Spirit, because if there was, he would have known the truth. He wouldn't be an attendant at an assembly if there was such a thing.
the movie is available with english subtitles on on-demand.
saw it earlier today.
shop .
It is "must-watch" for any Jw or xJW. I downloaded the movie off of whoever made the movie available here on the JWN site.
It was beautiful. My husband and my girls watched it. My husband (never a JW) got a glimpse into my past world that he never would have understood had he not if he hadn't seen the movie. He liked the movie. My girls liked the movie.
compare and contrast.. my weekends as a jw;.
saturday.
stressing to get the kids ready in time to get out to meet the fs group.
As JW...
Friday night...get clothes, etc ready for Sat. service.
Saturday...get up EARLY to get 5 babies (5 1/2 and under) ready for field service. Get 4 girls and 1 boy bathed, dressed, etc. in time for the group. Get to the group. Sit through the group. Get told to go home, because no one wants to work in field service with a single mom of 5 kids. Go home clean up from breakfast, feed them lunch, put them down for their naps and feel depressed. Know that the service group not only got to to do field service, but also got to go have a coffee at Tim Horton's, but YOU were not worthy, because you had too many kids.
Sunday...get up EARLY to get 5 babies ready for the meeting. Go to the meeting. Sit most of it in the Mother's room or flicking them in the head to behave through 2 hours of mind-numbing meetings. Go home (while the rest got together at each other's homes or for meals at restaurants) and try to be a good mom for the rest of the day.
As a NON JW...
Friday night...enjoy the evening. Go out to the pub and have a meal with my husband and with our kids old enough to go to the pub. Kids working, having fun with their friends, their friends at our place having fun, watching movies, going places, doing things. A few of the kids go to the church group, but it's their choice. No one is forcing them to go...they go because they like it.
Saturday...get up when ever we want. Travel, go skiing, go gambling, go visit friends, family. Get stuff done around the house. Whatever. Rembering how much these "worldly" people have gone out of their way to unconditionally help mr...simply because I was a single mom of 6 kids and needed time out and help to raise them.
Sunday...sleep in...go to our new church at 11:15 for an hour of worship with music and no dress code! Listen to a sermon about JESUS! Go home, feel refreshed, think about my family still in and wish I could help them free themselves of the ratrace of the witless life...and get ready for work on Monday.
...good god, it feels good to be normal!
Rose
so i just wanted to see how much you guys pay for certain things - for comparison sake.. bread: a loaf of white sliced bread = r 9.00 incl vat (tax).
2 litre coke: r 11.00. a kg of deboned roast lamb: r 80.00 per kg.
a kg of chicken: r 25.00 a kg.
So I just wanted to see how much you guys pay for certain things - for comparison sake.
Bread: A loaf of white sliced bread = $1.75
2 litre coke: $1.25 (97c on sale yesterday)
A kg of deboned roast lamb: no clue
A kg of chicken: Breast meat: $10-12/kg, Legs/Thighs $5-6/kg
Potatoes: Russets: 10lbs - $4-5; Nuggets: 5lbs - $6-7
A homestyle baked cake: 8x10 carrot cake $10-12, Dairy Queen ice cream cake, large size $24
Milk - $4 for 4 litres
Thin flat 72cm TV - Sony - apx $900-1200
Decent underware - $5-20, bras $20-30.
Levi jeans: $30-50
Car: no clue; Dodge or Chrysler minivan $24-40,000 depending on options
A 4 Bedroom home in a decent suburb: $400-500,000 (basic home)
i remember when i was in my early teens finding out about a jw brother who was hitting his jw wife.
her parents were also witnesses and were disgusted with his behaviour (and rightly so).
i was completely shocked at the time, thinking those kinds of things just didn't happen among a loving brotherhood.
I (and my kids) are victims of JW allowed domestic violence. My JW ex-husband served a 30-day sentence (ankle bracelet) and 1 year probabtion for what he did to us.
Just one of many stories...There was a time I took my son to the meeting. My now ex-husband would not let me take my baby to the mother's room. Fortunately, my daughter was 18 months younger than him (he was about 2 1'/2 at the time) She needed her diaper changed, so I took my son with me. My ex had beet my son with a shoe, so badly that his back was bruised from top to bottom. I showed another mom in the mother's room what my ex had done to him. She did nothing. I needed help. The JW's were not there. The "world" helped us. Thank god. That was my big "wake-up" from this cult.
I hated being married.
I hated being single.
I REALLY hated being married.
I hated being single.
Now, I love being married. It's true that it takes being married to the right person for you.
It took me 3 times to find that one.
i know some of you know me by my posts...as someone very much on the "fence".
recently, i had made an effort to start coming back to meetings after being inactive for 2+ years.
during that time, i did have a prescription drug problem following an injury.
My mom was hospitalized for depression (a breakdown). She was using prescription meds and alcohol at the time.
I love my mom, she is a beautifu person...allbeit at JW....
She wasn't councelled as far as I know, let alone df'd for her addictions...
I think they (your judicial committee looking for a way to df you (they similarily did that to me)...in my opinion...they wanted you out...and this was their way. Chin-up...it's good on the outside!
or is it just me?...ya...it was wicked hard to deal with and i will never be the same...we had two cute kids at the time, very young, and she was out knocking on doors with a 35 hour a month average....i was never spiritual enough and hated service....and felt there were too many meetings......she truly just disappeared one day...no note...i found her thousands of miles away, not even in the us....ya how is that for weird?.....can anybody top that?....i lost 20 pounds the first month and was already skinny.....i still care for her greatly, and know she was truly mentally ill at the time......cause you would have to be crazy to leave a guy like me!!!
!.....lol.....that line has gotten me through a lot of tough times....she really was ill and on tons of meds.......oompa....this one should be on oprah.
again.....can anybody top that?....step up to the plate....i could not find anyone to help me with that, as nobody had had that happen to them.
While we were both still active jw's, my now ex-husband left 10 days before our 5th baby (our oldest was 5 1/2 at the time) and moved in with a girl from his work. OUCH! He was not even there for her birth.
That baby turned 15 yesterday.
Funny story, kind of related. My grandma passed, and we went to the "memorial" on the weekend. My oldest daughter was sitting in the "family" section. Her grandmother (the mom of the ex mentioned above - still a JW) came up to her and asked her how she was related to the family...my daughter said, "uh...I'm YOUR granddaughter."
tis the season for outdoor activities!
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http://s4.photobucket.com/albums/y142/lonestarnot/?action=view¤t=girlonbike.flv
I was watching that video...with an eerie sense that I'd been there before. It looked so familiar...then the scare!
My 1st job was at Playland...I ran that ride...the swings...(the bumper cars and the music express)...
Not good video!