Posts by misguided

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Greets all, its been a while

by orbison11 in

greets all.

for some reason,,i went to click on our old room (yes it has been a long while) and i found this new one, although all.

my old buds are still here,.

OK...so how am I to handle this...

by misguided in

i never phone my parents...except for "buisiness.

" tonight was "buisiness.".

i have a high school reunion, my daughter wants to buy her grad dress, and i want to get my european passport, for which i need my father to come to the german consulate with me to obtain.

misguided

I NEVER phone my parents...except for "buisiness." Tonight was "buisiness."

I have a high school reunion, my daughter wants to buy her grad dress, and I want to get my European Passport, for which I need my father to come to the German consulate with me to obtain. I call tonight to let them know there's "buisness on Friday," and we're coming to the "Coast."

My mother asks if I'd seen the Fifth Estate yesterday. Yes, I say, I was up from 1 am to 2 am, because my 15-year-old daughter "pulled a fast one" and missed the last bus home. I had to go pick her up at about 1:20. The 5th Estate was re-aired between 1 and 2 am. I saw the story, but I missed who I saw on the show.

Long story short... It was a show about the downtown eastside Vancouver. This is where I grew up. One of the people highlighted on the show was Tansia Prouting, a drug addict, who had lost 2 of her daughters to her drug addiction. She was a JW (although it doesn't say that on the show). They talked about her being sexually abused by a friend of the family (I know who that is) and how it lead her to living on the streets.

Now I'm feeling ignignant. I was a single mom of 6...and I was sexully abused by HER FATHER., an elder from New Zealand...and my younger brother (15 years younger) was sexually abused by, and I'm certain is, the same person who sexually abused as described by this girl, as the same person who abused HER....this prostitute, living on the streets of East End Vancouver. My mother actually agreed with this...she knows it happened.

My mom knows I've been sexually abused by JW 's more than once.

I get mad...I tell my mom about the abuse settlements in California, and if I didn't want to make things diffi cult for them, I would start a law-suit against the WTS for what they did to me, and my children. She knows my JW ex-father-in-lawhad a baby with my ex-neice (sister) in-law, yet was covered up by the ORG.

My mother thought I was lying. I assured her I was not. One thing lead to another..sadly...I could not contain myself... and she left the phone-call with no arguements left. I feel sad. I feel bad. I feel like I cannot free her from the cult, but I feel like she wants to know...yet I think that my giving into her wanting to know is going to lead her to hate me. She's protecting the Org...and I should just let my mom believe what she belieives, yet I couldn't. I went on to talk about doctrine...stupid...

anyhow...now I'm feeling like a complete idiot...wishing I'd shut up...

Rose

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Tattoos? Regrets?

by JimmyPage in

jw
friends

do you have a tattoo?

how long have you had it?

what is it?

misguided

Tattoos, yes...regrets, No!

6

moving back to Vegas

by rekless in

jw
friends

my wife died here in south dakota, and now i'm moving back to vegas.. my daughter lives there with four of my grand kids so i can't wait to get there.. so any x's there on this board give me a shout and we shall get together if you want.. for you new ones here i've been on here for 7 years i guess.. see you in vegas should be there middle of march after house closes.. dan walker of clearlake ca.

and south dakota.. give me some heat.

misguided

Nice weather?? My HTC said it was 8 degrees C and raining today in Las Vegas. It was 3 degrees here in Kelowna today - not much difference in our world.

Ah....but...I'm still looking forward to being there in 11 days!

I can't imagine what my Bro and sister-in-law coming from the Grand Cayman, at 26c today, is going to have being in such weather, if it lasts, in Las Vegas.

Love you Bro...can't wait to see you!

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OctoMom

by leavingwt in

tmz: "it was a very goodyear".

must-see photo here: http://www.tmz.com/2009/02/12/octomom-it-was-a-very-goodyear/.

omg.

misguided

Stupid, probably to wined up to reply to this thread...but I'm going to try....

I was a single mom of 5, then 6. My jw husband moved in with a girl from his work 10 days before our 5th baby was born. He (unknown to me) became a Coke addict at the time. Most of you know the story....18 months after I divorced him, I married a crazy JW who abused us (he did 3 months jail time and 1 year probation for what he did to us. But not before I had 1 more baby.

As a single mom of 6 I know that it is damn near impossible to raise 6 alone, let alone 14. I think the woman is crazy. If people don't come through for her she's hooped. There's just no way. She's going to need to be a leech on society just to make an effort at raising those babies. It's the only way she can do it.

My ex-husbands are collectively are over $60K in arrears in their child support. I went back to school, married again (to a good non-JW), and not collecting welfare. My oldest daughter is graduating from UBC-Okanagan as an RN in June at 21 years of age.

I just don't know how she can do it. It's just not possible. I so many times just wanted to bail out...run away...disappear. I didn't, but with 14 and no help...I just might have! It acually might have been the most loving thing I could have done for my kids. Someone else may have been able to give to them what I couldn't.

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WANTED ! JW Apologist

by wobble in

this must have been mentioned before,but now reniaa is back it could be fun.. if jw's are even part way to the truth,and all other religions are false, then they must have a doctrine that is unique to them,given by holy spirit, but plainly taught in the bible,without resorting to fancifull exegesis and bouncing around from verse to verse out of context etc.. what is that doctrine?.

love.

wobble.. .

misguided

Sometimes I read Renaia's posts thinking she just might make a point that will make me think JW's got it right, want to go back, get reinstated, and get my family back...

Then I realize her reasoning makes no sense and trying to defend the organization makes her a fool, an idiot, the same as I was as a JW. Then I get angry feelings toward her and the organization itself for making fools of both of us.

She doesn't seem to realize that she in trying to defend the jw's is just doing the opposite. That's the whole reason, I'm sure, that JW's are told to STAY AWAY from these type of 'apostate' places. She doesn't seem to get that.

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Did you learn anything from people on the door?

by badboy in

jw
friends

any ideas?.

misguided

I learned about Orgys. My service partner, who was a little older than me, and I knocked at a door (east Vancouver c. 1975-80, we were about 10-15 years old) and a voice told us to come in. We opened the door....to way more than we ever expected to see!!! I'll bet they had good laughs about the expression on our faces!! We got outta there real fast.

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Vegas is another planet....i tore it up this week...anybody love it??

by oompa in

jw
friends

ya...had to do some business out there....but two days of biz....and five days total.... mean a helluva lotta fun....esp without jw wife!....dont ask how much i lost or it may jade my fun trip....but it wasnt pretty....i have always had decent luck with blackjack...no horror stories til now....then a friend taught me how to play craps.....now i really really hate it!!!.....

i played with a (minor) actor and his wife from beverly hills one night and we hit it off.....he took two hundred dollars and turned it into 1800 in three hours!...i learned a lot and was impressed...turns out it is not easily replicated!!!!

(and i tried three times dammit)....that game can suck your winnings dry very fast...so i dont like that and will not do it again..... poker tournaments are the way to go imo...i did pretty well on the first two i ever entered....fourth and sixth out of three and four tables and the entry fee is low...esp for all you can learn/earn and the fun you can have....very social too...lotta fun.........double life oompa reporting.......... there is no place like vegas in the world....it always amazes me....and btw...to make it even better...i hooked up with a big superfun family i have known for years that were in town as well....and ya...they are all out!...so we were comrades in sin city.....oompa.

misguided

Love it! Will be there in 19 more days! Going with my sweetie to the Nascar race, and staying for a week!

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As a JW were You Told to Not Report or Be Silent about Child Abuse ?

by flipper in

as most of you know in 2002 barbara anderson and bill bowen were on the dateline program which revealed that child abuse victims had been theatened with disfellowshipping from the jehovah's witnesses for reporting child abuse to the police and authorities .

and this actually happened to many victims and their families for standing up in behalf of the safety of abused children !.

most here are aware of the out of court child abuse settlements the wt society made with 16 witness child abuse victims in 2007. a gag order was placed on victims so they would not speak of their experiences with the media.

misguided

The grandfather of my older 5 kids is a pedophile. He had a baby with his daughter. My kids' cousin is also their aunt. When I married their dad, he was still an elder, with the "product of the incest" being 15 years old. The mother, my ex-sister-in-law once told me that the abuse started when she was about 4 years old, and happened even during field service.

We were told not to say anything when it was found out (shortly after our marriage) that what my ex thought was his neice turned out to be his half-sister through his sister.

It still is there, yet, l block it out - maybe more for my kids' sake than for protecting some Organization, but I still numb it.

The baby is now in her 30's, and my ex said at Christmastime that she's recently df'd herself, grandma (my kids dad's sister, their aunt) is raising her 3 kids as jw's (although through Facebook, I think that's going to be short-lived, thank god.)

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Do You still Believe Some of the Doctrines?

by cameo-d in

even if you have left the jws are there still bits and pieces of the doctrines you still believe?.

what doctrines do you still believe that are taught by the wt?.

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misguided

The doctrine I still believe is: By this you will know them, if they have love amongst themselves."

Only thing is, now I know what that REALLY means!