Wendy: * Rose singing "if they could see us now..." *
I always felt so unaccepted, and out-of-place there. There were lots of cliques.
Rose
my hotmail account (again, just for you ) is: [email protected]
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Can't wait to see that judgemental blank look on my parents face
by misguided inwhen i tell them my daughter got the letter in the mail yesterday that she's been accepted to that spiritually-killing, immorality-laden place called the university of british columbia for fall studies!
she's so excited, as am i!.
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Can't wait to see that judgemental blank look on my parents face
by misguided inwhen i tell them my daughter got the letter in the mail yesterday that she's been accepted to that spiritually-killing, immorality-laden place called the university of british columbia for fall studies!
she's so excited, as am i!.
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Zulukai: I've tried pm'ing you a couple times and Orbi too, have you got them?
My hotmail address is: [email protected]
Rose
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Can't wait to see that judgemental blank look on my parents face
by misguided inwhen i tell them my daughter got the letter in the mail yesterday that she's been accepted to that spiritually-killing, immorality-laden place called the university of british columbia for fall studies!
she's so excited, as am i!.
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Thank you all for your best wishes for my daughter.
She's going into the Bachelor of Science in Nursing program.
I sure wish I'd had that opportunity. However, I suppose I should be happy with getting through school as a single parent of 6 (I just graduated from College in 2000!)
When I told my mother I was going to go, she looked at me with that worried look she gets and said, "don't you think this is the wrong time to be doing this the end is so close!" I went anyways, thank god, but for a moment the guilt factor set in and I actually considered what she said. Did she expect me to raise these kids with no child support on welfare or working at Wendy's?
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Can't wait to see that judgemental blank look on my parents face
by misguided inwhen i tell them my daughter got the letter in the mail yesterday that she's been accepted to that spiritually-killing, immorality-laden place called the university of british columbia for fall studies!
she's so excited, as am i!.
rose
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When I tell them my daughter got the letter in the mail yesterday that she's been accepted to that spiritually-killing, immorality-laden place called the University of British Columbia for fall studies! She's so excited, as am I!
I just had to tell someone!
Rose
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Could we be right, and they be right too?
by JH inis it possible that just about everything we say about the jw's on this forum is true, but on the other hand they would be the only true religion that god approves, even though they are imperfect and make errors?
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I sometimes ask this question myself, too. I think it's a valid and common question for those who have been where we have.
I've sometimes used the Heaven's Gate cult mass suicide to reason this one out to myself.
The Hale Bopp comet didn't hit earth when they were expecting it, they "hurried" their next life by committing suicide. But there was one fellow who didn't think it was his time to go, didn't die with the others, and became the spokesperson for those who had died. To this date (as far as I know) he still holds the beliefs of Heavens Gate as true, and still thinks his leader (that old bald guy) is a chosen one. Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on this.
But, I figure if this guy could be so brainwashed into still believing after most of his group has died by suicide, maybe we're just that brainwashed, too?
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The Loving Provision Of Disfellowshipping.
by Englishman inwatchtower, july 15, 1995:.
disfellowshippinga loving provision?.
"holy, holy, holy is jehovah god, the almighty.
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Delilah:
when I was DF'd, they promised to make sure my kids were kept involved and looked after spiritually......NOT!!!!!!! They were never once invited to anything
Same thing here...they've not invited to anything...not even a MEETING! No one ever calls to let them know what time or where the memorial is going to be held, or when the next circuit or district assembly date is.
Rose
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Excellent article on WT mind control!
by truth_about_the_truth injehovah's witnesses .
if you are one of jehovah's witnesses your mind is being controlled by someone else without your knowledge.
mind control - what is it?.
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I "felt" your analysis, and thought it was very profound.
Thank you for sharing your essay with us.
Rose
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What do you think the main guilt trips are in the jws?
by misguided ingreendawn asked this question at: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/94462/1604122/post.ashx#1604122 (hope i did that right).
i think this question deserved a thread of its own.. rose.
i hope that's ok, greendawn.
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Why would you
- forsake the privilege of serving Jehovah? (because it doesn't feel like a privilege to me)
- give up on the hope of everlasting life? (because I really don't want to live forever, and since I can't seem to live up to your rules, I feel like I don't deserve any reward anyway)
- hurt those who love you? (I really don't, but I can't think of any other way to escape the mental anguish I feel)
- risk being bloodguilty and sentence your children to destruction? (If that's what a loving god would do)
- make a stand for Satan's side of the sovereignty issue (If that's what I'm doing, that's what I'm doing, obviously my heart condition's not good enough to measure up - I mean, that is what you are telling me, right?)
- turn your back on a god who loves you (I feel I'm turning my back on a multimillion $ publishing company, not God)
- turn your back on Jehovah's loving organizational arrangement (I don't see it as being loving, I see a lot of people hurt from it. This "loving" organization didn't protect me from sexual preditors; rather told me to be obedient to the shepherds, which I did, blindly, naively, stupidly, and this made me a prime candide for their abuse. If you were just able to acknowlege my pain, or appologize for the lack of care, I might be able to "wait on Jehovah." But you seem incapable of that. Too proud? Too arrogant? You'd rather ignore it than even try to quietly find a way to comfort me? I find my pain too great. I find myself feeling crazy, disbelieved, like you think it's my fault. Jehovah either really doesn't care for me, or maybe I'm just to wicked for him to care about. I can't make this feeling go away. It's driving me crazy. I want to die, get it over with, pay the price of my sins. I can't go on, but I've got to. You're not helping me, rather you're telling me to do more, study more, pray more. I'm dying inside. I'm doing what you're saying but it's not working. I've got kids to raise, but I feel like I can't do anything right. "Worldy" people are telling me I'm doing a great job, in spite of all the bad choices I've made thinking they were the "right" choices. I'm giving up, and I think you may be happy about this, for now I'm not going to be a burden on the congregation, bad association, or grieving the holy spirit. I commit spiritual suicide. You tell me in during my committee meetings, "we're trying to determine if you have a wicked heart or if you are just weak." I want you to have Jehovah's spirit to direct you to make the right decision to know whether I am weak or I am wicked. You decide I'm wicked. I cry out, "Jehovah, why have you forsaken me." You disfellowship me. You leave me alone, without friends or family, just me and my 6 kids, and tell me to stay away from "worldy ones," if I want to prove I have a good heart and return. The isolation is a feeling that is too hard to describe. "Worldly" people reach out to me, show unconditional love for me, I can't believe this is Satan's doing. These people are rescuing me from my pain!)
...good grief, I could turn this into a book!
Wow, that was therapeutic. Sorry it got so long.
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Victims of serious crime?
by greendawn inwere you ever the victim of serious crime such as physical assault, mugging, burglary, arson, big financial fraud, kidnapping, etc?
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My still-involved-with-the-JWs-ex, was convicted of Threatening Conduct & Criminal Harassment.
He got a 30-day sentence and 1 year probation.
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What do you think the main guilt trips are in the jws?
by misguided ingreendawn asked this question at: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/94462/1604122/post.ashx#1604122 (hope i did that right).
i think this question deserved a thread of its own.. rose.
i hope that's ok, greendawn.
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greendawn asked this question at: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/94462/1604122/post.ashx#1604122 (hope I did that right)
I think this question deserved a thread of its own.
Rose
P.S. I hope that's ok, greendawn