the jws used to always have discussions about whether to have children "in this system of things".. i used to always think it was pathetic to avoid having kids because of the so-called impending armageddon.. however.
despite the fact that i've always wanted kids, right now i'm not so sure.
just look at the things happening in the world.
<pity party>Now I'm childless, no wife, and the youngest in my family. And too old to start again. I'll probably die cold and alone. </pity party
finallyfree...
<pity party> overloaded with children, no husband, and the oldest in my family, not too late to start again, definately not dying cold and alone. </pity party>
wanna have a pity party?
lol...Rose
born in, what difference does it make?
i was thinking about this one a lot over the last few weeks.
what difference does it make whether you were born into a cult or were brought in as a teen or adult?
OMG...wonderlustguy, did you ever nail that!
I read it twice. It's just so, well, exactly what I felt, but I could never put it into words as well as you have. There's nothing in your post I have not experienced or felt myself. It's so awesome to find others who can relate to the way you feel...truly amazing.
Thank you,
Rose
my dreams have always been pretty transparent.
most of my dreams in my lifetime have been awful scary ones of being chased in the night and jumping over backyard fences and then flying off to safety.
my childhood was awful and scary and lonely.
((((HUGS)))
You go Girl!!!
rose
did it ever happen in your congregation that a person was asked to leave?.
i remember about 10 years ago, an elder was giving the sunday talk, and a woman that i never saw before was seated in the front.
she was all alone, and right in the middle of the brothers talk, she raised her hand and started asking questions to the brother about what he just said.
I was pretty young at the time, but I remember a drunk walking in off the street (in Vancouver) and walking straight up to the speaker giving the Sunday Talk (I still remember which speaker it was) and started yelling at him...something about the Jehovah's Witnesses taking his wife from him. They quickly escorted the guy out, with him screaming all the way.
After that, they always had a "suit" posted as a guard at the entrance-way.
Rose
what is the official stance on if there has not been 'new light' published?
i thought if no new light published the 'old' still stands.
what about the ridiculous?
aluminum
My parents still believe this !!!
I think in my parent's case "new light" really isn't "new light" it's just a form of "theocratic warfare" meant to "weed out" the "faithful" from the "unfaithful," but the original belief still stands as "truth" in their mind.
I believe they still think it's a conspiracy of the greedy aluminum pot makers of the world that has hidden the true facts that aluminum causes physical/mental ailments, because the WTS can NEVER be wrong...
It's all so freakin' convoluted!
Not to mention the look of shock I had on my face as my parent's told me I should buy white eggs rather than the brown free-run eggs I had been buying, because brown ones seemed to have more of those blood spots in them! Crazy, crazy, crazy!
Rose
i wonder if it's just me, or if other posters are like this.
do any of you start to type a post, then hit the back button, or quit your post because your afraid of saying something stupid or "wrong," or reread some of your previous posts and wonder, what you were thinking when you posted it?.
i find most people on this board more than willing to accept you for whatever you say in a post, but i still frequently shy away from hitting that 'submit post' button.. rose (pushing the submit button before chickening out again)
I wonder if it's just me, or if other posters are like this. Do any of you start to type a post, then hit the back button, or quit your post because your afraid of saying something stupid or "wrong," or reread some of your previous posts and wonder, what you were thinking when you posted it?
I find most people on this board more than willing to accept you for whatever you say in a post, but I still frequently shy away from hitting that 'submit post' button.
Rose (pushing the submit button before chickening out again)
my name is sean polden and i live in halifax, nova scotia.
i was recently discussing an issue with someone, and as she had previously attended one of your lectures, she suggested that i contact you to see if you would possibly have some information that i require.
i am seeking legislative change regarding the allowance of "mature minor" status for children who wish to refuse live-saving or live-extending medical treatment on the basis of religious choice.
kwin...excellent!!
Rose
I was faced with this decision in 1997 with my 6th child. On his 16 week ultrasound he was diagnosed as having a large cystic hygroma. It was a huge sack of lymphatic fluid which was septated (a more deadly form). I was told the baby would not live, and if he did, he would have severe handicaps such as heart defects, liver defects, chromosomal abnormalities, etc.
I was not a very active dub at the time, but opted to "let nature take its course."
I am happy to say, I have a beatiful, loving little boy who totally beat the odds. He's mildly mentally challenged (an IQ of 69), but is an amazing kid, who brings us joy every day. He has no other defects. I'm so glad I didn't make a different choice.
That having been said, though, I believe that people faced with the likelihood their child will be born with a defect be allowed to make this sort of choice. I also believe there are situations where termination of pregnancy is appropriate for some individuals.
I don't believe people should use abortion as a form of birth control. One of our patients just had her 5th abortion in 6 years. One of her pregnancies was terminated at 26 weeks, for which she had to go to the United States to have, as she was too far along to have it done here. This really bothers me.
Rose
well, in my case anyway.
for those of you that may recall my posts about my family and that after i left the wts, how i wrote long (and painful) letters to my nonjw children among others.
i had tried to explain why i had shunned them and how very sorry i was, and for all the mistakes i had made throughout their childhoods as a jw mother.
Sunspot: Thank you for sharing your story. I managed to hold the tears from flowing in your first post, but by the time I read your second, that was it...they were streaming down my face - and still are as I write this.
I'm not boring you with all this!
Absolutely NOT!!
(((((HUGS)))))
Rose
holy crap it's hotter than hell out there!!
i know, i know, i had bitched back in early may cause it was snowing outside, but this is crazy!
right now, it's 30 celcius, or 86 fairenheit outside.
30 C (86 F) Fortunately there's not a significant humidity factor here.
Rose
