no longer being a christian, it has become a mind opening experience to look back and see certian things i once ignored or just brushed off.
yet now i can not help but see these things and wonder why other christians do not.. if you have ever studied greek, roman or any other cultures religions in history.
then you have no doubt read their legends, about gods and how things came to be, and no doubt you have enjoyed these and at the same time you must have wondered how people actually bought this enough to make it a religion.
were it not for the fact that there are so many who take it seriously and are extremely vocal in their seriousness
I only had to read this far to hear, "your going to hell, your going to hell, your going to hell" in my mind. I know that Christians do not want to accept the Christ-myth. If they did, they would not be Christians. So to show an example of a Christian using limited info to prove their point, is as expected as the sun rising tomorrow.
no longer being a christian, it has become a mind opening experience to look back and see certian things i once ignored or just brushed off.
yet now i can not help but see these things and wonder why other christians do not.. if you have ever studied greek, roman or any other cultures religions in history.
then you have no doubt read their legends, about gods and how things came to be, and no doubt you have enjoyed these and at the same time you must have wondered how people actually bought this enough to make it a religion.
If Jesus never lived, then how could he have been gay?
Jesus was gay? Never knew that was part of the legend of Jesus
no longer being a christian, it has become a mind opening experience to look back and see certian things i once ignored or just brushed off.
yet now i can not help but see these things and wonder why other christians do not.. if you have ever studied greek, roman or any other cultures religions in history.
then you have no doubt read their legends, about gods and how things came to be, and no doubt you have enjoyed these and at the same time you must have wondered how people actually bought this enough to make it a religion.
Everytime something comes out that disproves that something in the Bible might be wrong, it is debated away until the person who brought it up is tired of fighting the dogma of the other side. I must wonder if those questioning the Roman/Greek system experienced the same thing in the time of that religion. On the other hand, when ever something is in the news that might prove something in the Bible, it is made a huge deal of, even before the evidence can truly be examined. Then when it is disproven, you see that mentioned on page ten of the news paper.
If the Bible is true, then it all has to be true ...
So show me where the Garden of Eden is, where is Noah's Ark, where are remains of people that were gaints ... explain why stories in the Bible, including the Jesus legen, compare so closely to Roman/Greek myths? Why? and where is the proof. Without that, I have to see Christianity as a myth that society will one day grow out of. The Roman's grew out of their religion.
The thing is, I think that the story of Jesus can have power on the mind and the idea's mentioned by the legend can benefit people. I just see these same thoughts in other religions too. So a Christian, if they really want to explore their religion, should consider other religions and not go out with the closed minded thought, "that Jesus is the only one that taught these things about love." As for people being willing to die for faults belief systems, this is not something new and you would only need to study such bizzare thoughts as the cults of our times and the Nazi movement, to see that people will go to extreme to support beliefs they themselves created.
no longer being a christian, it has become a mind opening experience to look back and see certian things i once ignored or just brushed off.
yet now i can not help but see these things and wonder why other christians do not.. if you have ever studied greek, roman or any other cultures religions in history.
then you have no doubt read their legends, about gods and how things came to be, and no doubt you have enjoyed these and at the same time you must have wondered how people actually bought this enough to make it a religion.
Prove it
I thought real proof was something Christian's feared. Any how, prove mr wrong! As I know I am right. Prove to me that there was Garden of Eden, because if the Bible says it, it must be so, right?
no longer being a christian, it has become a mind opening experience to look back and see certian things i once ignored or just brushed off.
yet now i can not help but see these things and wonder why other christians do not.. if you have ever studied greek, roman or any other cultures religions in history.
then you have no doubt read their legends, about gods and how things came to be, and no doubt you have enjoyed these and at the same time you must have wondered how people actually bought this enough to make it a religion.
First hand account written over 30 yrs later by men who were looking for a means to control people. Even that is highly in question and some consider Paul to be the great myth maker himself. It was not exactly modern times and why is that? Why do these suppose miricals take place in times when science could not prove them? Wasn't God wise enough to know that one day science would prove him, right or wrong? Why did he choose such a simple time in human history? Better yet, why only in one part of the world (a small part at that). Was the rest of the world just god's bathroom? It's a regional myth religion that spread. No proof shown that I have seen to prove otherwise, that wasn't written by someone looking to support there own religion. Oh, and the Bible, how much more can you twist that thing to make it sound like something it isn't. It's a history book at best, myth more then history, might as well quote "Homer's Odysse" same thing.
no longer being a christian, it has become a mind opening experience to look back and see certian things i once ignored or just brushed off.
yet now i can not help but see these things and wonder why other christians do not.. if you have ever studied greek, roman or any other cultures religions in history.
then you have no doubt read their legends, about gods and how things came to be, and no doubt you have enjoyed these and at the same time you must have wondered how people actually bought this enough to make it a religion.
No longer being a Christian, it has become a mind opening experience to look back and see certian things I once ignored or just brushed off. Yet now I can not help but see these things and wonder why other Christians do not.
If you have ever studied Greek, Roman or any other cultures religions in history. Then you have no doubt read their legends, about gods and how things came to be, and no doubt you have enjoyed these and at the same time you must have wondered how people actually bought this enough to make it a religion. Yet, are you willing to accept that Christianity is the same exact thing?
Why for example, does the Bible have stories that mirror Roman and Greek myth? Why does the virgin birth occur many times in Roman and Greek myth, yet we ignore that and think the Christ one must be true? Even the legends sounds almost exact to Roman/Greek legends. Samson sounds a lot like Hercules. Eve and Pandora, have a lot in common. The stories of gaint Titans in ancient times, being replaced by smaller people. Sounds like the legend of the Nephilim (sp). It is all so clear and why could we not see it. I could go on and on. People have to see this and it lowers my respect for the religion all the more, when I realize that it was just another example of the Meditereanian religions sharing legends and passing them into their culture, with their own certian flare.
Jesus never lived, any more so then Hercules did. The legend lives on though!
Just something I was thinking about
for example: we had a 'faithfull' brother getting older and confused.
when something did not really went as he liked it (didn't get the answer etc) he shouted very loudly 'god doom me in the hell!
one time i had to do the closing prayer on the midweek meeting.
Once heard a man say, "Jehovah, please look after our dead loved ones, so that they are safe tonight." Nearly dropped to the floor laughing.
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are you a blind believer or do you have evidence of a continued existence beyond physical death either personal in nature or from scientifically valid sources?.
blueblades
I think this is a possible, but do not know it to be true. For me, to at least think of the possible is better then closing the door to wonder or maybe all together. However, if you are asking "do I have enough faith to die for my thoughts?" No, I think in any sense that life is worth riding to the full, in case the other side is the ghetto side of town and we wish we were back in the rich neighborhood. My mind however can not seem to put my arms around and grab the idea that death is pure nothingness.
most of you are ex-dubs, so what if world events proved that the jw's were right.
for instance, governments turning on religion, matthew 24th chapt events really increasing at an alarming rate, enough to make you think: " maybe they were right?
" if that happened, and the wts left the "door on the ark", so to speak, open for a little while, would you go back to the wts?
Governments in some lands already turned on the JW's, and religion in general, as well as many other "prophecies" in small scale. The world is a big place and what happens in a few square miles 1,000 miles away, does not seem to have the same pull it once had. To truly be a "act of god" it needs to happen global and to all. As any other way would just being blowing one story out of perportion ... wait, isn't that what the news does anyway?
hi guys.
wondering if you have any input on this one.. now that you are no longer a jw what is your interpratation of the lords prayer where it says 'let your will take place in heaven also upon earth'.. i would love to hear your opinions on this matter.
as a christian the belief is that you are going to heaven right?
Once heard it explained this way, and as a non-Christian this might seem out of place to respond ...
For those who see Jesus as nothing more then just another example of Spirit speaking ... I once heard that this comment was actually saying, let that which you desire spiritually manfest itself in a physical manner. Basically, may the desires of my heart find root from my sub-conscience into my physical conscience, so that my life may take the path that I truly desire.
... something I thought would be interesting to share.
