Have anyone noticed that some controversial topics like 1914, non celebration of Holidays, etc are contained in the Appendix section of this new study Book rather than in the main section. Can we conclude that topics in the Appendix are not supported in the Bible but are JW doctrines. I suspect that there must be a reason for this action by the WTS.
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5Some Observations in the Bible Teach Book
by trem inhave anyone noticed that some controversial topics like 1914, non celebration of holidays, etc are contained in the appendix section of this new study book rather than in the main section.
can we conclude that topics in the appendix are not supported in the bible but are jw doctrines.
i suspect that there must be a reason for this action by the wts.
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Is the 144,000 persons mentioned in Rev 7:4-8 literal or symbolic
by trem ini know that this may have been treated before but i still need your valuable suggestions.. rev 7:4 says "and i heard the number of those who were sealed, a hundred and forty-four thousand, sealed out of every tribe of the sons of israel", veses 5 to 8 provides additional details that 12,000 were selected from the 12 tribes of israel.
the book of numbers 1: 20-42 lists the following as the 12 tribes of natural israel: reu ben, sim eon, gad, judah, is sachar, zeb ulun, e phraim, manas seh, benjamin, dan, ash er and naph tali.
however, rev 7:5-8 did not list the tribes of ephraim and dan but instead listed 10 approved tribes with 2 non approved tribes of levi and joseph.
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trem
I know that this may have been treated before but I still need your valuable suggestions.
Rev 7:4 says "And I heard the number of those who were sealed, a hundred and forty-four thousand, sealed out of every tribe of the sons of Israel", veses 5 to 8 provides additional details that 12,000 were selected from the 12 tribes of Israel. The book of Numbers 1: 20-42 lists the following as the 12 tribes of natural Israel: Reu´ben, Sim´e·on, Gad, Judah, Is´sa·char, Zeb´u·lun, E´phra·im, Ma·nas´seh, Benjamin, Dan, Ash´er and Naph´ta·li. However, Rev 7:5-8 did not list the tribes of Ephraim and Dan but instead listed 10 approved tribes with 2 non approved tribes of Levi and Joseph. Does anyone know why the tribes of Ephraim and Dan was left out and replaced with Levi and Joseph in Rev 7:7,8?
The WTS is using the inclusion of 2 non approved tribes as a reason for treating this part of the srcipture(Rev 7:5-8) as symbolic. It however treats the 144,000 in Rev 7:4 as literal even when the Bible says the 144,000 is sealed out of every tribe of the sons of Israel.
My understanding of this scripture is that the 12 tribes of Israel symbolically represents the entire nations and the selection of equal number of person from each tribe of Israel symbolically shows that God is not partial but in every nation, the man that works rigtheousness is acceptable to him as found in Acts 10:34,35
I find it more comfortable to treat the 144,000 and the tribes mentioned in this scripture to be symbolic rather than treating the 144,000 literal and the tribes symbolic as the WTS has done.
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My First Doubt
by tall penguin inthis may not seem like your typical doubt but it was the first time i allowed myself to question the bible and the wt's explanation of things.
about 6 years ago, i was assigned a talk on the man judah.
this was when we were doing talks on specific bible characters.
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trem
The Bible reference is Judges Chapter 19 verses 22-29. A lot of unimaginable things happened in the bible times.