what a couple of idiots!
cellomould
"You're crying 'why am I the victim?' when the culprit is YOU" Stevie Wonder
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Browns Chicken Suspects Charged
by Kristen ini remember clearly the events in 1993 that surrounded this horrible massacre.
i worked in the town of palatine within a mile or two of the crime scene and remember how frightened i was in the immediate weeks after this event happened knowing the killer(s) was still on the loose.. they finally caught the bastards who slaughtered seven innocent livesfor some money and for the "thrill" of it.. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/showcase/chi-020518browns.story?coll=chi%2dnews%2dhed.
today, after nine years palatine and its surrounding communities are breathing a long-awaited sigh of relief.. may their victims and their families finally rest in peace.
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Help me ... getting w..e....a.......k
by Simon inangharad has abandoned me and gone on a girls night out!.
to cut a long story short - i'm starving to death and the end may be only minutes away .... there is a large white box in a place called "kitchen" (hey, it lights up when you open the door!
) and apparently this can be used with a "noven" or "micro-drive" (or was it "wave"?
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cellomould
Simon,
I know your pain. I am experiencing some serious hunger right now too. I have not had anything to eat today.(although it is only afternoon here)
Someone untie my from this damn computer!!!
cellomould
"You're crying 'why am I the victim?' when the culprit is YOU" Stevie Wonder
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I cried (Posted first by SilentLambs)
by WildHorses ini cried .
i cried for my sister ... raped by a temporary (auxillary) pioneeer, who was a close friend of my brother (now a bethel elder) .... she was only trying to come into the truth like her big brothers ... trying to attend meetings ... go in the field ... to study ... trying to only associate with jehovah s people , instead of those "evil worldly people....bad associations" .
i cried for my sister again .... along with my littlest brother ... because when the two of them stopped studying and coming to meetings ...and my brother and i .....we were too busy with our new "family" spending all our spare time going to meetings... studies... door to door ... assemblies ... and conventions...we were too busy doing god s work to notice or worry that our step father used the older siblings being away to take advantage of those two children .
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cellomould
This was a very touching story, I must add. Thanks for sharing it, Lilacs.
I was tempted to send this story, but I opted instead to send the info directly from the Awake! magazine.
I will share this story with my parents, however.
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I cried (Posted first by SilentLambs)
by WildHorses ini cried .
i cried for my sister ... raped by a temporary (auxillary) pioneeer, who was a close friend of my brother (now a bethel elder) .... she was only trying to come into the truth like her big brothers ... trying to attend meetings ... go in the field ... to study ... trying to only associate with jehovah s people , instead of those "evil worldly people....bad associations" .
i cried for my sister again .... along with my littlest brother ... because when the two of them stopped studying and coming to meetings ...and my brother and i .....we were too busy with our new "family" spending all our spare time going to meetings... studies... door to door ... assemblies ... and conventions...we were too busy doing god s work to notice or worry that our step father used the older siblings being away to take advantage of those two children .
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cellomould
I sent a copy of this to each elder in my former congregation and each JW in my e-mail address book. Of course, I used bcc, or 'blind carbon copy', so that it doesn't appear to be a mass e-mail. I think this will be very effective.
Appeared in Awake! October 8, 1993:
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AFTER using children to satisfy perverted lusts, after robbing them of their security and their sense of innocence, child molesters still want something else from their victims—SILENCE. To secure that silence, they use shame, secrecy, even outright terror. Children are thus robbed of their best weapon against abuse—the will to tell, to speak up and ask an adult for protection.
Tragically, adult society often unwittingly collaborates with child abusers. How so? By refusing to be aware of this danger, by fostering a hush-hush attitude about it, by believing oft-repeated myths. Ignorance, misinformation, and silence give safe haven to abusers, not their victims.
For example, the Canadian Conference of Catholic Bishops concluded recently that it was a "general conspiracy of silence" that allowed gross child abuse to persist among the Catholic clergy for decades. Time magazine, in reporting on the widespread plague of incest, also cited a "conspiracy of silence" as a factor that "only helps perpetuate the tragedy" in families.
However, Time noted that this conspiracy is crumbling at last. Why? In a word, education. It is as Asiaweek magazine put it: "All experts agree that the best defence against child abuse is public awareness."
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Please watch Dateline NBC on Tuesday, May 28th. Please encourage your friends and loved ones to watch.
This topic will be discussed in relation to its prevalence among the congregations of Jehovah's Witnesses.
Please help protect children.
Thank you,
cellomould
"You're crying 'why am I the victim?' when the culprit is YOU" Stevie Wonder
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Causing 'Chaos' @ District Conventions ....
by invisible inceltic here.. i realise many of you are not yet upto scratch on downright going for the society, that's cool.. for those of you more radical activists out there, what better possible manner in which to cause major disruption and to teach something of our aims to a potential massive audience, than to attend a district convention near you.. saucepans and sticks don't half make one hell of a din.. digital cameras are cool too to record all activity and to possibly edit later on for possible leverage with media bodies interested in the event etc.. the point is, is to have a watertight angle on which to go in on, to cause the best possible effect to our strategic advantage.
that means imforming the media of our presence in advance plus many other initiatives that will be described as part of a longer post on this subject tomorrow.. take a leaf out of the uk road protesters and anti global capitalists book, they could teach us a thing or two.. so who's up from you bunch of slackers, for causing major disruptions this year?
bring your wire snippers with you.. peace.
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cellomould
It might be useful to attend a meeting once in a while in areas in which you are unlikely to see JWs you know.
Who says they don't need to hear different opinions?
You have no need to feel shame.
cellomould
"You're crying 'why am I the victim?' when the culprit is YOU" Stevie Wonder
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Air For Sale
by Farkel inyou gotta love the watchtower printing corporation.
they sell air and they make a bloody fortune doing it!
knorr was selling air that made people feel good, even though they couldnt explain exactly why it made them feel good.. here we have some comments about a watchman classtm whose main sin is not wanting to sell watchtower books.
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cellomould
Farkel,
I personally never ever visited sites like this until several months after my last meeting. I was proud of myself that I didn't look at 'apostate' stuff even as i dismantled my beliefs in the bible.
But I am sure that I could not have jumped into a site like this and emerged unscathed.
I don't know how someone can read and not think.
My solution was not to read, which saved me from thinking, at the time.
People are trying to make 'life and death' decisions over 'air'. You make a good point there. Some of these people I still care about (i.e. my family). It's quite a bitter feeling, realizing how few logical steps they could take and be 'saved' from the madness.
It's also bittersweet that I have taken these steps, yet could have done so much sooner.
cellomould
"You're crying 'why am I the victim?' when the culprit is YOU" Stevie Wonder
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A little bit of history
by RR inbelow is an interesting letter from walter salter [prominent jw in canada]if i'm not mistaken is was branch manager of ther canadian wts.
anyways, this is a letter to judge rutherford.. __________________.
box no.
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cellomould
This one is a keeper, RR...
...where did you get it? Did you have to type it up to post it?"You're crying 'why am I the victim?' when the culprit is YOU" Stevie Wonder
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My Experience Today with My Brother
by Reborn2002 inwell, my brother and his wife came over to my parent's house to visit today while i was home.. to make a long story short, while my brother and his wife were chatting with my mother in the living room, my 1 and a half year old nephew reilly walked into the kitchen where i was making a caesar salad.. he walked over towards me and was smiling, how can any normal adult resist the innocent smile of a child who is your relative?
i picked him up and gave him a huge hug, and told him i loved him.. as i was holding my nephew in my arms, my brother walked into the room.
he was smack dab in the middle of an in-depth conversation about jehovah with my mother and his wife, and i admit i was rolling my eyes listening to him spew about the "truth" and "the only means for salvation in the last days of this wicked system" even though when i confronted him with info on the un, blood, russell gravesite, rape changes, exclusivity, etc, he had no response for me because he was dumbfounded and lost for words.
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cellomould
Reborn,
Sounds like that really hurt. I'm sorry about your experience.
'Apostate' is just a biting word. It really means nothing; it's an emotional trigger.
It's so strong that it hit me one day far after I attended my last meeting that 'Apostates' didn't self-appoint. They are labeled.
As much as it hurts to be labeled, you know that it's hogwash. You are being labeled by a drooling drone.
cellomould
"You're crying 'why am I the victim?' when the culprit is YOU" Stevie Wonder
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Bush briefed on hijacking threat before September
by ashitaka inwashington (cnn) -- president bush's daily intelligence briefing in the weeks leading up to the september 11 terror attacks included a warning of the possibility that osama bin laden's al qaeda network would attempt to hijack a u.s.-based airliner, senior administration officials said wednesday.
but, the officials said, there was no speculation about the use of an airplane itself as a bomb or a weapon, and no specific, credible information about the possibility of a hijacking of any sort.
hijackers took over the controls of four planes on september 11, 2001. two of those planes plowed into new york's world trade center, another jetliner nose dived into the pentagon and the fourth aircraft crashed into pennsylvania woodlands after passengers tried in vain to overcome the terrorists.
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cellomould
Given the magnitude of such an 'accident', I don't think under ordinary circumstances the President would downplay it.
He downplayed it because advisors or supporters of the White House KNEW it was a blatant attack.
If it was a surprise entirely, the 1st thing the White House would do would be to consider whether this was some sort intention behind this 'accident'.
The WTC may be big, but it is still incredibly unlikely that a plane going down would hit there. The New York skyline has many, many other buildings.
The pilot of a distressed plane would have rather crashed into the water than hit those buildings. And he could have easily done so.
This situation reeks of the administration 'trying to act surprised'.
Not that the President himself necessarily had to know. Just that he got information and acted as someone wanted him to act.
cellomould
"You're crying 'why am I the victim?' when the culprit is YOU" Stevie Wonder
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ex-jws and cognitive dissonance
by HildaBingen inmystikool told me i should endure.
he said it not right for me to drop out when there is battle to be fought.
so i no longer offended.
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cellomould
"The truth"?
You mean, like God really has destroyed the entire race of mankind once and plans to do it again?
Why didn't Noah enter into a paradise? Are you sure there is a pot of gold at the end of your rainbow?
Hey, if God really destroyed the world in a flood 4000 years ago, not only did he hide the evidence, he also covered it up with abundant evidence to the contrary.
That's right, archaeology, genetics, physics, etc... continue to discover new evidence that contradicts your "truth".
It's easy to sit here and defend "the truth". But can you support any one of the doctrines you claim to believe?
For example:
Do you really believe that every one who is not a JW will be destroyed soon?
And why are you so sure? Is it because that is what would make you feel better?
You even project your feelings about being one of Jehovah's Unloving Witnesses onto people who no longer hold such illusions. Why do you suppose people who have left will continue to feel as do you, enslaved in your small little mind cell?
"You're crying 'why am I the victim?' when the culprit is YOU" Stevie Wonder