ex-jws and cognitive dissonance

by HildaBingen 46 Replies latest jw friends

  • HildaBingen
    HildaBingen

    Mystikool told me i should endure. he said it not right for me to drop out when there is battle to be fought. so i no longer offended. i going to speak my mind in this place.

    ex jws think they are free. but they really suffer from cognitive dissonance and malfunctioning defense mechanisms--reaction formation, shadow, neurotic symptoms.

    These people in this place battle with competing yet relevant cognitions all the time. they know the truth (1 cognition) but they kick against the goads because it makes them feel uncomfortable (2 cognitions). how can they reduce dissonance or increase consonance? they decide to oppose Gods's people. it make them feel good for while. it kinda like a smoker who know she should quit smoking but keep on. she argue with family memebers and friends and come up with persuasive arguments about how smoking good for you. all the time, she know she suffers from dissonance in her cog. ex jw same way. In their effort to decrease dissonance, they oppose God and people of God. Some come back to fold doh.

    We will speak truth.

  • TR
    TR
    Mystikool told me....

    Re He Heallllly. You always do what Mystifool tells you?

    TR

    UADNA-WA
    Unseen Apostate Directorate of North America- Washington Division

  • HildaBingen
    HildaBingen

    :Re He Heallllly. You always do what Mystifool tells you?:

    Only if he whsiper it sweetly in my ear.

  • jerome
    jerome

    She knows what cognitive dissonance is?

    Wow the plot thickens.

    jerome

    The Bible is a two edged sword wield it for evil and there may be hell to pay.

  • Elsewhere
    Elsewhere

    they know the truth (1 cognition)
    The truth is that the WTS is wrong.

    they kick against the goads because it makes them feel uncomfortable (2 cognitions).
    I'm assuming you meant "gods". I have never observed a deity or any other supernatural phenomena.

    argue with family members and friends and come up with persuasive arguments about how smoking good for you
    How is freedom from an oppressive organization like smoking?

    oppose God and people of God.
    How is it possible to oppose something that has not yet been demonstrated to exist?

    "As every one knows, there are mistakes in the Bible" - The Watchtower, April 15, 1928, p. 126
    Believe in yourself, not mythology.
    <x ><

  • coffee_black
    coffee_black

    Hilda dear,
    You are becoming very boring. Counseling might be useful for the split personality disorder.

    cb

  • Makena1
    Makena1

    they kick against the goads because it makes them feel uncomfortable (2 cognitions).
    I'm assuming you meant "gods". I have never observed a deity or any other supernatural phenomena.

    Actually, I think goads is correct, as in an animal that fights the cattle prod, aka sharp pointed stick or goad.

    Now - where can I get a Mystikool of my very own?

    Mak

    Some men worship rank, some worship heroes, some worship power, some worship God, & over these ideals they dispute & cannot unite--but they all worship money.
    - Mark Twain

  • MarchOn
    MarchOn

    Hilda aka Miss Cleo

  • Dutchie
    Dutchie

    Hilda, please do not think that you are fighting a battle. There is actually no battle here. We are not fighting against the "truth". We were never taught "truth" as Jehovah's Witnesses do not teach it.

    We are only frustrated because we were part of an organization that we believed in only to find out that that we were involved in a deceptive cult.

    Oh, yes, we are free, Hilda. Perfectly free to live our lives without it being scripted for us by the WTBTS.

  • HildaBingen
    HildaBingen

    :they kick against the goads because it makes them feel uncomfortable (2 cognitions).

    I'm assuming you meant "gods". I have never observed a deity or any other supernatural phenomena.:

    I meant "goads"--read your bible.

    :How is freedom from an oppressive organization like smoking?:

    The analogy is this. smokers participate in activity that harmful for them and try justify because of dissonance cognitionally. ex jw do same thing.

    :oppose God and people of God.

    How is it possible to oppose something that has not yet been demonstrated to exist?:

    You are looking in all wrong places. Nothing has been or can be demonstrated to exist. Everything is a leap of faith. My eyes are "hazel" is a belief. I cannot demonstrate it. But the mystic has bypassed the knowing-believing dileema. She intuits God directly and has a sensuous experience with Yahweh. There is nothing left to demonstrate, dear. Does your significant other have to demonstrate she exists? There you go.

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