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  A Case of Entrapment?

  by patio34 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  why is it that modern justice says entrapment is unfair?

  are they more just than god?

  consider the case of adam and eve: there they were, more innocent than any humans who had ever lived.

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  cellomould

  Darn good topic...

  That's the big question, why would God allow Adam and Eve to be tempted by a powerful demon they didn't know existed, and then call this a fair test?

  And if Satan was God's mortal enemy, then the question is even more valid.

  If you were a famous architect, for example, wouldn't you protect your sketches from an enemy you knew liked to destroy or steal your work?

  Okay, you might allow your architectural rival to make a few revisions to your grand project in order to prove him wrong. But if you took the time for this experiment, you'd also likely have time, after you fired the evil intern, to fix all the problems. Stray beams and unstable walls can be amended. You don't blame the walls for allowing themselves to be placed in error.

  Plus, we're not talking about a few stray pieces of wood in a building but human lives. These are supposed to be important given the anthropocentric nature of Judeo-Christian doctrine.

  So who is in control of the outcome? Who is responsible?

  God? Satan? Humans?

  Whereas almost every moral issue is cast as black and white, here the lines are blurred to make the doctrines seem to make sense.

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  Atheist Myths

  by cellomould in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  excerpts from http://www.hdiweb.com/atheism/html/atheist_myths.html .

  as i have said many times before, the purpose of this column is not to promote the us vs. them mentality against the theists, rather to promote understanding and tolerance.

  however, we all know that many theists are so closed-minded about us that they wont even talk to us, let alone try to understand us.

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  I still can't get over how the WT praises and condemns 'scientists' in the same sentence.

  'This particular scientist notes <credibility assigned>...'
  'This other scientist (e.g. an atheist), however, admits <scientific credibility shattered>...'

  By clever manipulation of their words in quotations, the WT casts the atheist leaning scientists as feeble but capable of 'finding God'.

  cellomould

  

  "In other words, your God is the warden of a prison where the only prisoner is your God." Jose Saramago, The Gospel According to Jesus Christ
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  what started you to doubt?

  by Imbue in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i had this at kents and there were several thoughtful and interesting replies.

  however, i would like to read some more.

  actally abaddon asked me this question and started me to thinking.......... so i wrote back this: .

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  cellomould

  I received an interesting fortune cookie a little more than a year ago: "Your doubts will soon be relieved".

  And then I moved from the doubting phase to the understanding and accepting phase very quickly...

  ...I knew that there was no 'Jehovah' in 'Jehovah's Organization' when I realized it was all about social acceptance. No one really cared about the truth, only the semblance of 'Truth'.

  And to answer the original question, much of my major doubting started when I began to suspect that a male JW friend had feelings for me. At the time I was engaged to be married and contemplating the nature of my own premarital 'sins'. Anyhow, the entire situation seemed so unfair and conventional wisdom was getting me nowhere.

  So I kicked the habit of relying on conventional wisdom in the pseudo-progressive JW style.

  cellomould

  

  "In other words, your God is the warden of a prison where the only prisoner is your God." Jose Saramago, The Gospel According to Jesus Christ
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  Question for Atheists

  by RWC in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  christians who believe in the bible and the teachings of christ use that as a moral core and code of conduct.

  for those who don't believe in god, where do you get your sense of moral right and wrong?

  what is your moral foundation?

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  Hey nice comments Pete

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  "In other words, your God is the warden of a prison where the only prisoner is your God." Jose Saramago, The Gospel According to Jesus Christ
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  Was Noah's Flood Local?

  by JosephAlward in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  achristian believes those who think the bible teaches that the flood was global look foolish.

  he wrote, .

  i encourage all christians to investigate the possibility that the bible does not really teach that the whole earth was flooded at the time of noah.

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  Yeah, Farkel and Syn,

  that is that is rather large for a 'local' flood. For example, the distance from Los Angeles to New York is about 2900 miles.

  If I am not mistaken, a flood plain of 2600 miles, give or take, would stretch from the Mediterranean all the way to the Himalayas.

  Does this make sense?
  
  Map courtesy of www.theodora.com/maps

  cellomould

  

  "In other words, your God is the warden of a prison where the only prisoner is your God." Jose Saramago, The Gospel According to Jesus Christ
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  Lovingkindness

  by Introspection in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  taken from insight meditation - the practice of freedom by joseph goldstein:.

  in his book love's executioner, the well-known stanford psychiatrist irwin yalom writes: "i do not like to work with patients who are in love.

  perhaps it is because of envy.

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  Thanks for the quotes, Intro...
  No, love is not a feeling. But it is sure a noble concept.

  cellomould

  

  "In other words, your God is the warden of a prison where the only prisoner is your God." Jose Saramago, The Gospel According to Jesus Christ
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  Do False Teachers Encourage Bible Reading?

  by GermanXJW in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  april 1st, 2002 watchtower reads on page 19:if jehovah's organization knowingly endorsed false teachings, advice to read the bible would never be given to jehovah's witnesses and those to whom they preach.. that reminds me of the quote from gb-member karl klein: if you have a tendency towards 'apostasy', get a hobby and keep yourself busy to keep your mind off of it.

  stay away from deep bible study to determine meanings of the scriptures.

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  It's not Bible reading that's good for you, it's guilt from not reading your Bible!

  That way you can be manipulated.

  cellomould

  

  "In other words, your God is the warden of a prison where the only prisoner is your God." Jose Saramago, The Gospel According to Jesus Christ
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  Atheist Myths

  by cellomould in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  excerpts from http://www.hdiweb.com/atheism/html/atheist_myths.html .

  as i have said many times before, the purpose of this column is not to promote the us vs. them mentality against the theists, rather to promote understanding and tolerance.

  however, we all know that many theists are so closed-minded about us that they wont even talk to us, let alone try to understand us.

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  Thanks for the comments,

  It seems that often less is more in life. We can enjoy more if we don't always look for meanings.

  And we have the freedom to assign meaning as we wish.

  cellomould

  

  "In other words, your God is the warden of a prison where the only prisoner is your God." Jose Saramago, The Gospel According to Jesus Christ
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  JW.com Users-EXPOSED

  by apostate man in

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  2. friends

  i'll show ya mine if ya show me yours.. oh, stop it.

  i mean pictures.

  too many of us here hide behind a fake picture.

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  cellomould

  that's me at the beach

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  "In other words, your God is the warden of a prison where the only prisoner is your God." Jose Saramago, The Gospel According to Jesus Christ
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  Funny things that have happend to you

  by Introspection in

  1. social
  2. humour

  what are some of them?

  i think sometimes those are funnier than any joke, after all it actually happend!.

  well off the top of my head, one thing that happend to me was i slipped going in to my history class in hs, and ended up looking like i was doing a split.. i know that's not much but my class and teacher got a kick out of it at the time.

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  O my!

  I can't believe what I've started here. Okay my cousin told one shit story that was worse once... him and his brother (also my cousin, of course) were in the bathtub as little kids. His brother pinched a loaf right there in the bathrub.

  'Take it out!'

  'No you take it out!'

  'No you!'

  Hahahahahahaha
  cellomould

  

  "In other words, your God is the warden of a prison where the only prisoner is your God." Jose Saramago, The Gospel According to Jesus Christ