Posts by Caedes

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Evolution and spirits

by Chris Tann in

as of now iam making an unbiased examination of evolution.

however one thing keeps me hanging on to the belief of a supreme spirit being; the existence of spirits.

i have heard countless accounts of people who have experienced frightening encounters with evil forces.

Caedes

Concrete thinkers however, which all JWs are, and some continue to be once they wake up, need to have defined bounderies for their beliefs. Concrete thinking is very childlike and does not give a person the balance that is required as an adult.

Having concrete beliefs about God, evolution and spirits is not essential for happiness. Having concrete views on these things can cause many to push their views on others using teqniques such as intellectual bullying. This is a childish and unhealthy way to communicate.

Katewild,

I should point out that I probably count as one of those 'concrete' thinkers to you. Personally I don't think it is 'concrete' to follow empirical evidence, if the evidence shows that I am wrong I am happy to adjust my view. I think it is far more 'concrete' to doggedly cling to a belief in the supernatural despite a complete lack of empirical evidence.

My main point regarding your quoted posts was the inconsistancy however, you claim that people who disagree with your worldview are 'concrete' thinkers and are thus childish and lack the skills to be an adult. Your next post you whine about intellectual bullying after a whole post in which you make an ad hominen attack on those who disagree with you. The reason it feels like intellectual bullying is because intellectually you know full well that believing things without empirical evidence is foolish.

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Top Scientist descent from Creationism

by Coded Logic in

http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?isbn=0309064066&page=25.

http://www.nas.edu/evolution/intelligentdesign.html.

http://www.aaas.org/news/aaas-board-resolution-intelligent-design-theory.

Caedes

I predict Perry wont come within a mile of this thread, always happy for Perry to prove me wrong though!

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Evolution and spirits

by Chris Tann in

as of now iam making an unbiased examination of evolution.

however one thing keeps me hanging on to the belief of a supreme spirit being; the existence of spirits.

i have heard countless accounts of people who have experienced frightening encounters with evil forces.

Caedes

I find it funny that the more superstitious the environment the more likely people are to 'experience' supernatural events. As people become more rational and skeptical the less likely it is that these things happen.

I was riding home one very dark evening and could see a number of shining eyes floating in the distance. Once I got closer I could see a dark bank that was impossible to see until you got close, there was no sign of the eyes but there were some foxes running away. Someone who was predisposed to believe in ghosties might have had a more colourful version of the story.

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The EBOLA conspiracy...

by gopher123 in

jw
friends

hey guys.

there has been a ton of illuminati hollywood mind control pre-programming about this virus outbreak before it actually happened.

conspiracy people of the world... unite.. .

Caedes

Talesin,

LOL, I get a bit panicked when the scientific folks on the board have severe reactions to relatively harmless, conspiracty-theory threads.

Hey, how's the blood pressure doing? Are you calmed down now?

I would say that it is difficult to really work out the emotion of the person writing the post.

As Cofty rightly points out though conspiracy theory is not harmless, it is a poison, much like creationism. It stifles sensible discourse and I see no reason why it shouldn't be challenged as rigorously as possible. The problem is that conspiracy theorists don't like to actually talk about facts because as this thread shows as soon as they are proven wrong they run for cover. Usually that cover is just more conspiracy theory, they never engage in discussion they just want to preach.

Some of us like playing whack-a-gopher though!

You can see the results of letting this sort of thing run rampant, just look at American politics. American politics is so dominated by stupid conspiracy theories to the point that actual scientific advice is drowned out. Uk politics is going the same way with the rise of UKIP and that gurning buffoon Farage.

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The EBOLA conspiracy...

by gopher123 in

jw
friends

hey guys.

there has been a ton of illuminati hollywood mind control pre-programming about this virus outbreak before it actually happened.

conspiracy people of the world... unite.. .

Caedes

Gopher,

How, exactly is that hilarious?

I'm still waiting to be 'crucified' with facts, in case you forgot that you can't answer a simple question.

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Are YOU a person who "collects" things? Let's chat a moment . . .

by Terry in

jw
friends

as a kid i only collected comic books until around 1962.. my collection was very important to me and i had emotional excitement at the release of a new comic--but--i made a date with 2 girls.

on the same day and didn't have any money!

(not thinking it through, you see :).

Caedes

I have a number of small collections,

music - LP and CD probably about a thousand or so, mainly alternative, indie, chill-out and rock

Board games - getting close to about 200 or so. (no, none of them are for kids!)

Lego - an extensive collection of minifigures and quite a few sets (mainly collector sets)

Books - I read a lot of science fiction and historical fiction (like the bible ) my collection is divided into the pile by my bed I haven't read and the stuff on my shelves that I have read.

Geological specimens - I have a small collection of fossils, rocks and minerals.

Video games and consoles - I have too many consoles to attach to my TV (and my TV has a lot of inputs) and too many games (if you talk to my wife!)

Painted toy soldiers - I have a very small collection of painted figures and a very large collection of ones I should be painting!

I don't think any are particularly out of hand and they do fit in my house!

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The EBOLA conspiracy...

by gopher123 in

jw
friends

hey guys.

there has been a ton of illuminati hollywood mind control pre-programming about this virus outbreak before it actually happened.

conspiracy people of the world... unite.. .

Caedes

Gopher, if you are really going to start trying to do the whole internet tough guy act then I would strongly suggest you don't try it with Simon.

By the way any chance of answering my question or are you just hoping that nobody notices that you can't answer it?

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Lockheed: Limitless Energy?

by metatron in

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friends

http://news.yahoo.com/lockheed-says-makes-breakthrough-fusion-energy-project-123840986--finance.html.

a prototype for testing in a year?

there have been a number of claims about fusion reactors in the past year but this seems the most bold.. .

Caedes

The problem with fusion is the engineering difficulties of upscaling the technology. This has nothing to do with some vast conspiracy or attempt to control who makes money from it, it has everything to do with the fact that it is very difficult to safely generate and contain the plasma. If you could solve the technical difficulties it would get built because it would be hugely profitable.

There is nothing in the article quoted in the OP that suggests that lockheed are any closer to the goal of upscaling a fusion reactor than anyone else working in the field.

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