Thank you for making my night. I laughed so hard, I had to wipe my laptop.
I am a new fan of this guy. Funny stuff!
Thank you for making my night. I laughed so hard, I had to wipe my laptop.
I am a new fan of this guy. Funny stuff!
many times i read the life stories of former jws.
some of these jws are or have been married.
sometimes their spouses share their doubt about the religion and at times they leave the "truth" together or months or years apart.
You are not alone, but feel free to vent, there are so many that are going through the exact same thing.
I got out when I was 17/18, so when I was married, this religion was not even a topic of conversation. However, I have seen the damage it has done, to even some family members, so my heart really goes out to anyone that is leaving this religion and still married - because even without having a religious element involved, marriage is a work in progress, with this cult and differing ideas, it takes all you have to not lose it completely.
But you are not alone, just remember that.
whether you think she got what she deserved or not she never came across as a sensitive, delicate personality that might take their own life, esp.
she had the goods on too many bigshots.
i don't buy it.
I can say without a shadow of a doubt, that it was not a suicide.
sometimes i think we lose all perspective at times on here.
that we are just as prone to over-magnifying any meaning behind relatively minor changes like this in the organisation in the same way jw's are prone to over exaggerate every bit of bad news in the world to mean armageddon is near.. when you sit down in the cold light of day, this change to the bookstudy arrangement for example, is it really that much a big deal?
i strongly doubt it really, despite initial reactions (including my own).
I can only speak for myself in that I could care less one way or the other, they can have five meetings a week. I read it out of interest from people that are still involved, because my family is in there. Otherwise, it is like watching a movie or reading a book. I am just an observer.
as the men in the congregations suffer from burnout and quit helping out as ms and elders, do you think the situation of shrinkage will become so desperate that the wts will be forced to start using women in positions of authority?
they have a huge commodity that they are refusing to use.
that makes no sense at all.
I just don't think it will happen. The indoctrination of men over women is just too deep in that religion.
When I was younger, yes - but mainly by my family. As an adult, rarely. I have been hurt, occasionally, but not crushed. I don't consider myself a sensitive person, and I was raised to not give a lot of validity to words. The only people that can cause me pain are people that I truly love.
When my baby brother told me he just didn't feel I loved him enough growing up, that hurt more than words could say.
guys, for those who know me here, i apologize in advance for being such troublesome pain in the ass.
i have had some scary low spots these past two years, and was imo on way too many meds.
i really had a death wish for awhile, and do not want to revist that feeling.
Oompa I am sorry to hear that, but it does take time. Are you talking with anyone at all? A qualified psychologist or counselor? (I have issues with psychiatry.)
My graduate training is in applied behavioral psychology, so I am never one for believing that just popping a pill is the answer, although in cases where there is a genetic issue or a chemical imbalance it is necessary. In all cases, I definitely believe that you have to take baby steps and undo all the damage, and have small goals you want to meet. It is important to get rid of cult references in your mind and learn to accept a world without giving any place to them. I always believe you have to do internal emotional work, as well as any issues that are corrected with medication.
Make a list of some things you want to do and see, nothing out of realm of possibility but just some things you can look forward to and then once a week try to check off at least one. Get involved in group events, I think meetups are good. I am not sure of exJWs have a group therapy anywhere in the US, but I definitely think they should, maybe some of those in your area that are going through the same thing, can meet up on a regular basis, play cards, watch movies and share with each other, things they have overcome, accomplishments and issues.
These are just some suggestions, I think coming here is a great start, just don't get too reliant on it, make sure you go out, even if it is to a library or bookstore and be around other people. Take a walk in the park, take some pictures, but just give yourself time. I hope that helps.
there are always so many bad memories related here i thought it might be nice to change it up a bit.
what are some of your funniestmemories of the meetings, or even field service?
things that happened things said?
two old brothers, both relatives of mine, could not hear real well. very small hall, and at this meeting they asked one of them..."brother oompa please close with prayer".....BOTH of my old relatives stood up and said an entire prayer...neither one hearing the other..........people were falling down.........oompa
They would have had to cart me away in a stretcher. That is hilarious!
right off the bat i am going to say that i understand there are a few bethelites and ex-bethelites here and i have no intention of offending anyone.
i have read the posts you've made and have enjoyed them and respect your individual points of view.
that said, i need to ask the board if they have noticed anything peculiar about the folks coming out of beth-hell?
They are not better than the world, as we all know.
I think that's the point, is that they are no better. I do believe that because they are secluded and forced to live a very saccharin ideology of "holier than" that to see the acts of things that have been mentioned is an interesting study. They same as if we were studying monks and nuns and such.
right off the bat i am going to say that i understand there are a few bethelites and ex-bethelites here and i have no intention of offending anyone.
i have read the posts you've made and have enjoyed them and respect your individual points of view.
that said, i need to ask the board if they have noticed anything peculiar about the folks coming out of beth-hell?
I am still stuck on the being allowed to marry a 15 year old. Isn't that against the law in some states. I can't imagine a mother, even a JW mother allowing her "still in high school" child to marry a man.
I have heard so many stories about men from Bethel, the reoccuring being gay, heavy into pornography, have hypersexual issues (all steeming from repression, I believe), having mutiple affairs and the wife abuse.
The one story I remember was the daughter of a family I befriended in a KH I attended. The daughter was a special pioneer and she had met her husband at Bethel, they had went to Brazil I believe, where "the need was great", and everyone just believed they were the perfect JW couple. Well, he met, fell in love with a Brazilian beauty and left his wife without even a goodbye. She had to come back home, humiliated and live with her family for about two years...