No UFO experiences. I live near several military bases and Boeing, as well as a lot of municipal airports. Nothing I see in the sky has ever shocked or scared me. I used to live in NYC and have teenagers, so I could probably see an alien and just think it was a teenager with a unique style sense. Or something.
JWdaughter
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Have you ever had an encounter with a UFO?
by free2beme inwhen i was about 16 years old, a group of us friends would go hiking a lot on the weekend.
we would rough it to some degree, just a sleeping back and sleeping under the stars.
one night, while hiking into a lake in northern california, we all were sleeping in a clearing just out of legal distance from a small mountain lake we liked to fish in.
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Rock The Vote: my secret is discovered
by under_believer ina while back, i registered to vote.
i even voted in our primary (nonpartisan issues only at this point--i'm still finding my "center.
at the time, my wife asked me if all this voting stuff we were getting all of a sudden was some new thing the state was doing--maybe you just get enrolled to vote when your drivers license renews, or something.
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JWdaughter
You and your wife are the coolest JWs I know.
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What kind of "real" Christian lets the kids do Halloween?
by lovelylil inas you all know we have been out of the tower about 3 years now.
i am still a christian but my hubby thinks of himself more as an agnostic.
anyway, my son who is 12 asked if he could go trick or treating with my nieghbor and her son just to try it as it never has - and i said it was up to him to decide.
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JWdaughter
Listen, sometimes a kid in a costume asking for candy is just a kid in a costume asking for candy.So give them toothpaste and brush and let them have their one night of community sanctioned candy solicitation.
Pagan religion predates Judaism, Christianity and JWism. Therefore, just about ANYTHING humans do could considered to be of pagan origin or association. Marriage and childbirth customs. Jewish feasts are based on seasons and harvests as much as any pagan (wicca/earth) type religion is. Times and seasons or family memorials like weddings, birthdays, etc figure into almost every human festival. Think about it. There is nothing a person can do, including wearing clothes and putting on shoes that I bet could not be related to pagan religion. So what do we do? Can we condemn every bit of humanity and its behavior? Or do we look at the reason a person is doing something? Are Susy and Johnny making their annual pilgrimage to worship the dead on halloween or are they looking to score a lot of chocolate bars (Dove and Hershey, preferably). Are you worshipping Saturnalia at Christmas? Do you know what Saturnalia is? (I used to be a JW and don't remember what the hell it is or if it was a person, a god or a planet they were worshipping!). Do you know or care who or what Eostre is? I wear a wedding ring and have no idea of its pagan origins.My reason, and yours, is not to worship the dead, honor Saturnalia, Eostre or a circle of gold. Gold stars could be said to have pagan associations-if you want to play that game-and I don't see anyone ripping up their kids perfect homework because their teacher stuck a pretty star on it. If one was to carry these things to their ridiculous extreme, they would need to go that far. Which brings us back to intent. What is your intent? And if my example is a ridiculous extreme, why isn't it ridiculous to tell a kid they can't dress up and charm their neighbors while collecting some candy when it is a custom that has no evil overtones unless you give it some?
Remember all the jokes that went over our heads as children? If we are innocent, then that is what happens-the 'real' meaning will go right over our heads. And if we have to be TOLD why something is pagan/wrong, it obviously is not our intent to be honoring pagan ideas with our activity. And whoever is telling you should MTOB. IMO.
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I'm a little confused about this forum
by gordon d ini know that i'm new here...and maybe this topic has already been covered.
i keep reading posts from members that make referrence to going to a meeting or going out in service..... holy crap?!?!?
what percentage of the people here still actually consider themselves as witnesses?????
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JWdaughter
Gordon, Welcome. I have enjoyed your posts here. Don't worry about asking an honest question and making an honest statement of your thoughts. That is SO fair game on this site. (keep it legal:)) As you can see, there are reasons for everyone being here, and not all are because of being EX JWs. Everyone is welcomed and various viewpoints are very appreciated. That is how many of us have finally learned to step out of the box we had been in in the organization. Some are out physically, but in mentally. Others are just the opposite. Either way-they need support and caring friends who accept them where they are. This is the place! (in the immortal words of Brigham Young-but he is a WHOLE other subject:) )
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Racism in the watchtower - Help me stop these lies!
by LeahJasmine ina lunatic on another website is spreading lies about the jehovah witnesses.
he's published an article that i am fighting.
you can read it here: racism in the jehovah witness watchtower: members of the cult must abandon their community for the watchtower community.. please help me.
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JWdaughter
In all honesty, the only thing I know without a doubt to be untrue is that they wear colonial (or nearly so) clothing. Thats a bit of a stretch. Modest and mostly out of style garb is about the worst you could accuse them of. . . often retro in a bad way, but not quite THAT retro.
I am unaware that they have secret tape recorders regularly, but I could definitely see the elders trying to trap a 'suspect' in such a way.
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Should we be DF'd for eating trans fats
by Bonnie_Clyde inwow....are you part of the gb and found that you have recieved "new light"?
(jk)the donut shops will suffer for sure!
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JWdaughter
I don't think that KFC changing because of a lawsuit is the same as gov't making laws. The gov't doesn't need to make 'laws' about everything, but common sense guidelines and information being disseminated is not the same as a law. I think alerting the public to the risk is a good thing. KFC is changing in the way that things are supposed to change in the US, because there is a consumer insistance upon it. CSPI isn't a gov't entity is it? If so, I stand corrected. I will give the example of Coke and its change(s), which were initially made because of perceived customer reasons, and eventually were changed back because of proven customer preferences. That is how our system is supposed to work. IMO. The changes that the KFC is making is due to a recognition that it NEEDS to change, and the lawsuit is what gave them their 'clue'. Took long enough!
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Sex with your divorced mate scripturally wrong?
by Fatfreek inlets say youre a jw married couple, get a divorce (unscriptural divorce, that is, so in jehovahs eyes you are still married), then both of you change your minds.
well, not completely.
you both realize the sex was great but your other needs and wants have changed in opposite directions.
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JWdaughter
If the sex is good and you don't actually have to live with them man, sounds all good to me. Sex without dirty laundry and cooking regular meals. . .just don't get pregnant! And if you have kids, don't be confusing them. Scripturally-seems like unless there was another marriage in the meantime it shouldn't be a problem, and even if HE married in the meantime, it might not be a problem, if 'biblically' you are still married to each other.
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Drugs death - and lousy funeral
by TheOldHippie ina friend of the family was found dead by overdose some days ago, a beautiful young woman in her late 20s, who had a young child that had been taken away from her some years ago and whom neither she nor her family - unlawfully - have been allowed to see ever since.. i went to the lutheran funeral, church all filled up, must have been 300 present, and the priest gave such a lousy performance that i have felt sick ever since.
not a word about the tragedy, not a word about what a terrible place this world is to quite a few, what monsters are lurking out there, not a word of warning when considering her fate towards all the youths in church, not a mention of her child (who, together with the foster parents and family were not present), no consolation, no comfort.
just stiff rituals, hear the word of the lord, listen to what the apostle luke says, listen to what the apostle peter says, hear the word of the lord in the psalms, let us say a silent prayer, let us say the lords prayer, stand up and receive the blessing, sit down, who has lost these car keys (said within the frame of the sermon!
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JWdaughter
That is a sad way to say goodbye to a person who was loved by others. No one should be in the business of giving funeral sermons if they can't do a proper job of it. I am sorry about your friend. My condolences.
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I no longer go to Church
by KW13 inat the moment i believe in god but i no longer attend church, infact its been some months since i last went and i've never felt more sure of myself as a person.. the view i take at the moment is that when i left the witnesses, i immediately went to seek out something that would organize my life but give me the control for a while.
even at church i saw people 'hooked' but the sad thing was, their entire faith crumbled away from the church or if for example the priest (vicar) wasn't there.. i think it was an important part of my journey which helped me get where i am, and i think a lot of folks who leave the org who need something to fill their time and want friends quickly, should try it if its what they need, it was what i needed at that time.. .
on the whole, i have a problem with organized religion now, whereas last year and earlier this year i woulda said different.. .
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JWdaughter
I have reached that point too. My church had been very active and involved in a ministry, and part of the reason we planned to build a new church was to increase the community services. We even had another ministry come out to help BUILD the building. However, once they came out it had been decided the money was not in the budget to do that 'just yet', so that they helped build the main building instead. Well, the food/clothes bank/community center idea was scrapped and even the existing food/clothes bank was CLOSED. So now there is this beautiful new building, and it isn't doing any community good. After that, several other things happened that tore the church apart, mostly stupid things that shouldn't happen among Christians, but mostly, the heart went out of it, IMO. It really became a church I no longer recognizedand I have started to consider other options. I really enjoy fellowship, but I am building other interest based relationships that are not dependant on church attendance. I still have my friends from that church however, there is not rejection because I stopped going. I just don't enjoy it anymore. I also have lost faith in the actual belief structure, but that happened gradually-I'm not sure where it began.
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Been in an longdistance relationship with a married woman
by SWolf ini have a situation that i need help with....2 1/2 yrs ago i met a woman online she is 20 yrs older then me 41 now as i am 23...i fell in love with her and i never have been in a long relationship.
i know she is married but very unhappy...we been having a long distance affair for 2 1/2 years and i love her more then anything in this world...i have made her very happy and just the other day she feels trapped knowing she will be destroyed...i did not know what jw's were so i have been going to learn so i could understand her.
i need help scriptures anything that i can use to help her leave her mentally abusive husband.
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JWdaughter
There is nothing you can really do at this point to make anything happen. She needs to get out of the abusive relationship(if indeed it is-right now you are getting the word of a woman who is cheating on her husband online with a young man who was a teenager when this begain). She will then (likely) still be a devoted to Jehovah's Witness, JW. Which is harder to overcome than the marriage-cause women may leave a bad husband for a younger man, but a JW just abandoning their religious convictions isn't something that happens easy or overnight. That in and of itself can take YEARS. And if she is still emotionally attached to the religion, even if she is kicked out or leaves it, will cause difficulties in forming a new relationship, emotional AND sexual. And one way or another, you will come out of it being a very young man, with a much older woman who has so much baggage she needs the Orient Express to haul it around with her. And we haven't discussed children, yours, hers, etc. She is getting past her pull date and you are just getting started. If everything else was overcome, her children and/or family could totally anihilate the entire relationship. That happens in a LOT of relationships, even without the special circumstances of this one-which makes it all the more likely.
If I were you, I'd change my email address and go back to college and meet a nice uncomplicated young woman whose only baggage is the really cute shoes that she still owes her parents $50 for!