Posts by JWdaughter

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My mom wants me to disassociate myself from her on facebook if

by JWdaughter in

my mom sent me a email telling me that if i want to put any of that (non jw/non christian) religious stuff on my facebook then i should unfriend her.

i didn't respond directly.

i did take the email, remove id'ing aspects and ask my facebook friends to tell me what they thought of the request.

JWdaughter

I appreciate the comments-except the adolescent one! I will have to examine that one a bit more! In any case, my mom has nobody in the family physically close to her and I am not giving her an excuse to shut me out directly by a confrontation. She would be too too alone. The only reason my kids visit her is when I harrass them into it even though my oldest does love her and confide in her sometimes (my kids are hours away also). She lives alone with her dog for pete's sake. My siblings live hours away by car or plane and so do I. She has two sisters who live hours away and most of her inlaws have died off. I'm the kid that in every way but the WT am the one she connects to. My sis and her are like oil/water (mostly because of the religion, but it comes out in a lot of ways) and my brother is a big fat dud of a human being.

So, I did my passive aggressive bit and will let it rest, I guess. I can't see bringing it on further. She already lived 40 years beyond "armageddon", outlived my dad and all her brothers, went through cancer for herself and several loved ones. If she defriends me, that's on her, but since she is still sending me emails like nothing was said or responded to online, I guess she is letting it go. It may have helped that I warned her off poisonous doggy treats for her puppy, who knows? I really think she likes dogs more than people. Irony is that I used to go out in service w/her and EVERY dog used to terrify her.

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no birthday celebration after all

by losingit in

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new boyfriend is upset bc an old boyfriend when i was a teenager is on my fb friend list and wished me a happy birthday.

was supposed to go to turkish embassy for cultural celebration.

my first birthday in years, and total freaking meltdown.

JWdaughter

You just got the best birthday present ever-a good look at the guy you call your boyfriend. You don't have to waste time on such a jealous controlling guy anymore. If he repents and you forgive him, he will DARN well make it up to you.

Happy Birthday. I know right now you are bummed but at least he didn't bring you take out shrimp chinese for dinner when he knows you are deathly allergic (my last birthday gift from ex) and don't really like Chinese food.

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Graph in latest Watchtower deliberately amended

by dozy in

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did anyone notice that the graph of publisher growth in the jan 1st watchtower has been deliberately "tweaked" to give the impression of higher growth in the period 2000 - 2010?

i've tried to illustrate this by superimposing the actual graph line over the one from the watchtower ( which is the narrower line in the graph.

) the period up to 2000 exactly mirrors the actual figures but the artist has decided to edge up the last decade , for obvious reasons.

JWdaughter

Jeffro, thank you for putting things in a perspective that will allow me to sleep at night!

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My mom wants me to disassociate myself from her on facebook if

by JWdaughter in

my mom sent me a email telling me that if i want to put any of that (non jw/non christian) religious stuff on my facebook then i should unfriend her.

i didn't respond directly.

i did take the email, remove id'ing aspects and ask my facebook friends to tell me what they thought of the request.

JWdaughter

I am putting what I want in my facebook. The latest thing I put in there was something I found here about the man who donated a lot of blood that is used for JW pregnancies/babies (rH factor). That blood has to come from somewhere! Haven't heard from her regarding that one, but I'm pretty sure she is getting my none too subtle message.

It's MY facebook page!

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The new bible did NOT remove the previously [bracked inserted words], it only removed the brackets, so it's even more deceptive..

by EndofMysteries in

many said how they removed the bracketed words, etc.

here is an example, an older bible in exodus 18:16 would say this....."i must make known the decisions of the [true] god and his laws.".

the word "true" is not in the original manuscripts, it's inserted, hence the [ ].

JWdaughter

Is the WT bible supposed to be an idea for idea translation or a word for word translation?

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The reason behind why the ex-JW community can never match Jehovah's Witnesses' success.

by Stand for Pure Worship in

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an average of five kingdom halls being constructed daily, almost 8 million brothers and sisters, dissemination of bible literature in 595 languages, 111,795 congregations worldwide, distribution of 179 million bibles available in 116 languages, 239 countries where jehovah's witnesses have a presence, etc.. need i go on?.

on the other hand........... crisis of conscience, freeminds, the awaa, jw.net, ummmmmm........hmmm........idk six screens or something?

not exactly working out for you guys.

JWdaughter

Any MLM business is pretty diverse-and at least when you leave, you have some laundry soap(or makeup or coffee or baskets or jewelry) to show for it!. They will let anyone join, even people from the humblest beginnings can find great success and women are an important part of it.

There are a lot of converts in and out of that business, but you can keep your friends when you leave the business.

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A mole within the FDS!

by braincleaned in

it has been now verified that there was a traitor within the gb!.

an insider had the courage and audacity to verify this, taking the risk of being kicked out of bethel, with a cross carved on his forehead.. it became apparent that all the men of the gb where naturally bald, even when some tried to hide it with a clever and stylistic comb-over.

but there was some suspicion that pierce and losch were not true bald men.

JWdaughter

I think most here are willing to mock the GB types-but while I could see some humor, there is just so much BETTER material with which to mock them. I think what you may have more of here than JWs is bald guys:)

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How I recently handled JWs at my door

by Christian guy in

the jws stopped by my house a couple weeks ago on a saturday morning.

i knew that with others most likely waiting for them out in the car they probably did not then have much time to engage in any serious conversation.

so i let them talk while i feigned interest in what they had to say.

JWdaughter

I don't really buy much of any of it anymore, but that they distort what it actually does say cannot be denied. I am happy to see that you got them thinking and I love the line of reasoning that you used-which was honest and did not need any manipulation or twisting. I appreciate that.

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My mom wants me to disassociate myself from her on facebook if

by JWdaughter in

my mom sent me a email telling me that if i want to put any of that (non jw/non christian) religious stuff on my facebook then i should unfriend her.

i didn't respond directly.

i did take the email, remove id'ing aspects and ask my facebook friends to tell me what they thought of the request.

JWdaughter

I am not saying anything hostile or direct to her. I brought it up on facebook w/o outing her and I am just letting honest comments come through so she can see herself in a mirror, so to speak. On the one hand, I think it is a bit passive aggressive to do it the way I am, but on the other hand, if she doesn't have something I think SHE should be ashamed of, I wouldn't be ashamed for her on her behalf to say WHO asked it of me.

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My mom wants me to disassociate myself from her on facebook if

by JWdaughter in

my mom sent me a email telling me that if i want to put any of that (non jw/non christian) religious stuff on my facebook then i should unfriend her.

i didn't respond directly.

i did take the email, remove id'ing aspects and ask my facebook friends to tell me what they thought of the request.

JWdaughter

My mom sent me a email telling me that if I want to put any of that (non JW/non Christian) religious stuff on my facebook then I should unfriend her. I didn't respond directly. I did take the email, remove ID'ing aspects and ask my facebook friends to tell me what they thought of the request. Only a few people responded, but all were positive towards me (some Christian, some non-religious, no JWs).

What I ended up doing was saying that I wasn't going to cut her off to get her off the hook for shunning me and I'm not going to be controlled by her-I'm almost 50 for pete's sake! (She is doing what the WT does! You do something they don't like but because they don't want to take the potential legal/reputational hit, they just say that you are no longer associated or that you have disassociated yourself. People DO disassociate themselves rather than being DF'd . I think that is such a cop out that they do that so they don't have to deal with the fallout that comes when they KICK OUT people and SHUN them. My mom wants me to unfriend her so that in essence, she has the (even internal ) defence of saying that I "unfriended" her. It just pisses me off.)

So, I looked at some of her other FB friends who have pictures of their birthday and christmas parties and celebrations, church groups, their political views, their homage to the military, stuff about boyfriends and girlfriends and babies whose parents aren't married. Oh, pictures of drunk underage kids are on some of them! All these things that would get a person DFd if they were JW. Or arrested, as the case may be. She hasn't unfriended anyone. She probably doesn't know how! Anyway-anyone else think this reminds you of when you first left the JWs and the expectation was that YOU are not supposed to talk to them simply because you know they won't talk back? I am not playing that game 30+ years after leaving the org.

My mom talks to me, I've never been DF'd and unfortunately, she has brought out a bit of fight in me. Principle of the thing kind of fight. I'm not being directly confrontational but I'm not going to let her tell me what I can and cannot put on my facebook page. She can have her talking dogs and I don't say anything about how stupid it is! I don't tell people what I ate for breakfast, how long my last visit to the bathroom took or my latest menopause symptoms. I have never invited anyone to Farmville (which should be grounds for shunning iMO).