have you noticed the article entitled "watch your associations in these last days" in the new august 2015 study watchtower?.
unless i'm reading it wrong, or somehow misinterpreting it, it is saying that we should be kind to intentional breakers of god's laws inside and outside the congregation, including fornicators, but that we must not be close associates with them.. are they already preparing for a shift in their disfellowshipping practices?.
here are the relevant paragraphs:.
If folks know that one is a fornicator (in the congregation) they can be kind, if not close associates, so long as they have not been DF'd, but if DF'd, (and no one necessarily knows why another is DF'd) then JWs should shun them (NOT kind).
Alrighty then.
i think the lesson on the blood issue in this story is obvious.. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/hero-sikh-man-breaks-strict-5711701.
Normal folks do not even think twice about such a thing. Extremists die over symbols, normal ones don't die or kill over turbans, cartoons or religious dictates as determined and defined by men. Normal guy did the right thing . Good.
hi, for a couple of months now.
i stopped (after some 17 years) visiting meetings etc.
my intellect and conscience could not longer stand the lectures from the platform and in the magazines.
Keep making better offers. Plays, movies, dinner, taking care of sick husband, movies are cheap on Tuesdays, art walk, author reading, free museum Thursday's, Renn fest, highland games, dance classes.. .
I recentlydiscovered my mom misses kind of a lot of meetings. She is tired from work or I ask if she wants t o do something, basically anything.
i have talked to him ttat.
and he understands.
he doesn't wanna be a jw.
the cobe of the local kingdom hall never paid my ex-wife for the work done because they promised they would use "trade" to reimburse close to $5000 worth of work.
as you can imagine nobody here would like him because he believes all the pedophiles can change their ways after the child sex offenders have proved their humility by bowing before the judicial committees.
this is how honest jehovah's witnesses are, they changed her work from a 1200 sq.
Its all a little vague to me at this point. If there is a written contract, even if the legal statute has run out, it is something you could bring up to the elders-if you think it would do a darn bit of good. If you do think they would address this, then do it, but if you're expecting actual results from them, you kinda need to play by their rules-be very clear, be very polite, bring up scriptures whenever necessary to condemn whatever it is that happened. If he is breaking laws NOW, then just tell the local tax board (or whoever) and let them deal with it after that.You did your civic duty.
If your ex isn't going to pursue this against the elder dude, there is no chance that the elders or org will ever effectuate any correction. Men get off from pedophile charges when no one will testify because they are "brothers". So, just don't get your panties in a twist about any of this when it is actually out of your control. Help your ex if she wants it, but recognize the limitations. Report to govt, and then forget it.
Not sure what your relation is to the cong/org now, but if you're persona non grata, then just help the ex in a silent partner kind of way or you will hurt her more than help her.
Its saturday. Do something fun. Forget this stuff for now.
hi there, although i have been a lurker here for a while now i've not yet posted a new topic, so here goes nothing lol.. i have been thinking a lot lately on all the changes and the branch visits, specifically the uk branch visit where apparently it has bean mentioned the great tribulation is about to start.. since i've not heard the full talk and only heard certain items from it i got to thinking that maybe this is the org's way of saying the watchtower is about to go down due to all the cover ups and the long list of discrepancies.. maybe i am way off the mark here, what does everone else think?.
Vidiot, do religions have tax exempt status everywhere? In the UK?
More importantly, why would that court case remove their tax exempt status?
would like to hear about any experiences anyone has had with the so called ' anointed ' .
someone suggested that i should introduce myself and how i got here.
this has been a crash course in the jw world.
i got an email that said "good bye, have a nice life".
I am sincerely glad that as a child and woman advocate that you are better educated about the JWs. When you come across JWs family crises, you will better know how to advocate for them effectively, hopefully-or you just won't be as clueless as most people are. The organization looks pretty harmless from "a distance".
At first I didn't understand why you didn't research the cross-then you described your life and it made perfect sense! I wish I had a strong woman like yourself nearby to kick my assertiveness in the backside a bit. You would be a great mentor!
Take care of yourself. Congratulations on getting away from the elder and getting your mom into a facility and out of your home when she is dangerous.
first time, been lurking for years, but i asked my husband who has been studying for 20 plus years if he has ever questioned those that were "teaching" him.
blew my mind.
i ask him all the questions that you have asked yourself, but he will not ask them.
20 years living with JW speak. OUCH! That she didn't leave already is a testament to her patience.
Her husband is trying to please everyone in his life. If he doesn't ask questions, he doesn't have to deal with the answers.
He is in a happy enough place-his family is happy with him, he still has a wife. He found the middle road so that he could keep it all. In his situation, he may feel as trapped as every JW with family/job connected to the Borg. His family home, his job-all in the same place.
He just trying to keep everyone happy(or off his back), perhaps, and not rock his own boat too much.
if youve followed the news lately there are more and more child abuse cases popping up.
one lawyer said he has over 28 cases in the pipeline that are going to be coming out soon.
on december 1 st a new one just popped up.
I think that it isn't that hard to liquidate.. . lots of cash can buy things that are ostensibly the organizations, but which are portable and easily disposed of (gold, jewelry, cash). If there are accounts overseas of investments, or even here, if they get it out, put in into cash and leave, they are guilty, but easily out of reach of anyone who would go after them for it. Someone would have to clean up the mess. . . but it wouldn't be THEM.
There is a possibility that years ago I read too much John Grisham, but I don't think this stuff is rocket science.
