Posts by JWdaughter

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Those aussie elders may escape repercussions after all....RC day 3

by Witness My Fury in

damn those tricky state laws: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmeg1omfumk 15:30 on.

annoying no?.

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JWdaughter

This whole RC process with all the troublesome churches and organizations, are going to be the impetus for future changes in law. It is an investigative process rather than a judicial one, and will be recommending processes and procedures to help alleviate these issues so that they don't go on for another 50 years with no one needing to take responsibility. I think we will find that some of them don't suit the WTBTS too much, but I can live with that!!! That they don't suit anyone at all is just fine if they can end some of the institutional abuses.

What is so shocking in the WT one, versus the others, are that they have consistently gone against every public interest and it IS NOT because folks were going against the rules or guidelines of their leaders 1006 out 0f 1006 show that they were doing exactly as they were told. This is coming from the top, not just a local decision that was wrong. THAT is being noted and I hope will be legislated against.

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What is the SIGNIFICANCE of the Astounding KORAN Manuscript discovery ?

by TerryWalstrom in

bart ehrman's blog reveals some very interesting facts about the recent discovery of a manuscript of the koran.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oksxmo9moqk.

"in case anyone is missing the significance of that, here is a comparison.

the first time we have any two-page manuscript fragment of the new testament is from around the year 200 ce.

JWdaughter

Dyakoub, absolutely true! If any here have not heard the Quran recited, it is indeed verse-it often actually rhymes. Those who listened and heard would repeat, word for word the words claimed to be from God. Believers checked each other to keep accountability.

The Bible is at times so profound and beautiful and wise, but there is no claim made that it is directly speaking the words from our Creator. The presumption that the Bible that we have today is indeed the scriptures that WERE inspired by God is kind of questionable even among Christians. All that being said, some really good stuff clearly did come through. Too bad none of us know what GOD inspired and what men just wrote off the cuff or pseudonomynously(?) recounted in the gospels and torah.

All that being said, its not a big issue in Islam other than minor bragging rights, maybe, that this "discovery" happened :) I never heard of any Muslim question that it was original, though I have seen some websites questioning it (most anti Muslim). No believer debates it much-the long standing custom of recitation has removed that particular issue from being a concern for Muslims.

HADITH (sayings), though, Muslims debate about that like Christians do the Bible, theology, doctrines, christology etc., altogether. OY! It is interesting in that hadith is NOT considered to be inspired at all. It is argued about by muslims like the Bible is by christians.

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Do you feel vindicated by the exposure of the WT Society in Australia? It seems like a feeding frenzy on here! I love it. You?

by Wasanelder Once in

are you pleased with the exposure of the society in australia?

do you feel personally vindicated by it?

do you think it gives you credibility with others now that all the things you said were going on, actually are documented?

JWdaughter

I don't get the sense of this being about meting out justice, merely seeing how various troubled groups respond to the issue of child sexual abuse. What will they do with the info? It might influence regulations/laws, but it isn't going to be a kick down by the govt. Against historic abusers. . Few JWs seem brave enough to click a link that might say something they don't want to hear. JWs never think they are subject to Caesar in any case. They will just game it as they always do.

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What would a JW do if their none JW neighbor molested their 9 year old daughter???

by James Mixon in

have anyone heard of a case where they (jw) turn the person over.

to the law???

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JWdaughter

I know what they'd do if their daughter was 13. Send her to the elders to determine if she was a victim or willing and just a skanky, fornicating evildoer.

Personal experience.

To say I am happy the WTBTS is being exposed for what they are is a huge understatement.

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What can you tell me about this painting?

by Esse quam videri in

JWdaughter

Yet he painted two Jews!

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Baiting Dubs for fun and amusement

by TerryWalstrom in

jw: "wha-a-a-t?

mormon: "okay.

other jw: "that's just .

JWdaughter

The lads church will likely get its turn. It doesn't seem to just pick on the Roman Catholic church or Jehovah's Witnesses.

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Baiting Dubs for fun and amusement

by TerryWalstrom in

jw: "wha-a-a-t?

mormon: "okay.

other jw: "that's just .

JWdaughter

Not a lot of Starbucks in Utah, but they do a lot besides caffeinated drinks. Ever had cranberry bliss bar? Smores frappucino? It's pricey though so shade is a good guess.

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Is the two-witness rule really unreasonable?

by stillin in

i'm picturing a situation in which a savvy 12 year old doesn't like the house rules that mom's new husband has put into place.

or something along that line.

i can certainly agree that protection of children is paramount, but who protects the real victim in those cases?

JWdaughter

There is no perfect justice in our system of justice, but it's a darn sight better than a bunch of untrained yahoos playing at being police, investigators, jurors, judges and appellate courts . All at once.

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1,000 sex abuse cases hidden in Australia for 68,000 publishers...what is it worldwide?

by cappytan in

the press is reporting that over 1,000 cases of abuse were hidden from authorities in australia.. australia has around 68,000 publishers.. if you that ratio applied to the u.s. also, there could be over 14,700 cases that were covered up here.. if the ratio held the same worldwide, that would be over 117,600 cases.. just let that sink in a little..

JWdaughter

In 1950 there were >7000 publishers. In 1960, 14000. Now 68000+.

Hmmm. Had they grown at that pace -since they more than doubled between 1960 nbd 1970, theyd have 450,000 by 2010, 675,000 by 2015.

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A conversation with some one relating to the investigation in australia

by joe134cd in

just thought i would relate a conversation i was having with a some what of a wishey washey jw.

first of all i was sitting having breakfast this morning listening to the trial highlights provided by barbra anderson.

i could just feel my blood boiling ( this was also combined that i was also feeling rather lousy from a cold).

JWdaughter

I think it would temper some persecuted attitudes if youd remind them that the jws are one religion of many. The catholic church started this process

Religion is not going to be destroyed for any of this. Its reforming. Across the board folk will begin to recognise their obligations to protect their flocks rather than their religions reputation.