No, I think if he had, it would have made history, and not hidden, cryptic history. And if women were such a big powerful part of it NO WAY would it be secret. We definitely take credit where due!
JWdaughter
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Do you believe Jesus was married?
by gaiagirl inthis is related to my question in "entertainment" regarding "the da vinci code".
in the book and the movie, it is claimed that jesus was actually married to mary magdelene, and that they had a child, descendants of whom survive even at the present time.
so, my question is: do you think any of this is true, could possibly be true, or is just plain wrong?
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Separated and dating a JW
by goldenshell inis the 1st time i write in here .
am really confused about my jw boyfriend attitude .. am separated and with a child .i went through a really bad time after separation (7 months ago)and one of the reasons the relashionship wth my husband ended is because i fell in love with my actual boyfriend ..was love @1st sight ...we didnt make love 4 obvious reasons related to his faith but @the beginning things were much easier :he allowed me to touch him in his intimate parts ,we touched each other (we saw each other naked without making love once)and was very exciting...but the more we were getting involved the accraction was growing more and more and even if i am from a different belief (converted to islam)we agreed that nobody should try to change the other or impose anything ,,,but now i feel he is a bit selfish >he doesnt allow me to touch him under the belt (telling me that recently he discovered he is not allowed to do that )he doesnt even touch my breast because he is not supposed to(after he did before)he is 30 years old ,very good looking man and he keeps telling me when he sees me (once a month :which is even too much)that he cant resist me !but is actually the opposite !!
!he is resisting me ...before i will be able to committ to him i will have to wait 3 years which means also have sex >i dont know and i dont think i will be able to resist after 5 years of marriage and ''regular'' sex life //i am tired of seeing him once a month because his family doesnt know about us (he tells me that if they knew they would tell him to stop helping them with money and to stay with me :but he doesnt wantto make that choice,since he was young he supported the family //on top of that after marriage he doesnt want to have children and he tells me that i have already 1 child (we spoke many times bout that and to make sure he wont have children he wants to do an operation that will sterilize him ).
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JWdaughter
Hello Goldenshell, I am sorry to read of your problems with your male friend. You got a lot of good advice here and I have a lot of concerns, but the main one is this-If you are not good enough to be introduced to his family, he is ashamed of the relationship. You are a married woman still and he has been sexual with you. He is drawn to you, attracted to you, but is NOT in any way committed to you. There is no chance of a good marriage or any other kind of relationship with a man who is ashamed of you. It won't change, it won't improve. He will blame YOU for HIS indiscretions with you. You will become a symbol to him of his weakness and his sinfulness. This will lead to all kinds of dysfunction in the relationship. It will probably never progress beyond a seedy hidden sordid relationship, because that is all he is willing to give you. He is probably the same guy that would sneak around after he is married, and he would say the woman enticed him. . .I am not being nice like the others, but JW or Muslim or Catholic, this guy is not good for you OR YOUR CHILD. Don't do this to your little one. They deserve better than that. And if you think leaving a good marriage for an instant attraction is 'the right thing to do', take a look at hollywood and see how that works out for those folks. If your husband is forgiving of you and can get past this, you might want to reconsider. If he will treat you badly in any way, just stay away from both of them, build your life, your self, love your child and worry about a man when you are free of the first and can have a real and open relationship with a real man who isn't ashamed of you. YOU DESERVE MORE!
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Da Vinci Code, what did you think?
by gaiagirl ini had recently read the book, "the da vinci code", and just saw the movie this weekend.
essentially, the plot revolves around a 2000 year old "cover-up", in which it is claimed that jesus was married to mary magdelene and had children.
this knowledge was suppressed by the early church, but kept alive by a secret society of which leonardo da vinci was a member.
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JWdaughter
I love Audrey Tautou, wonderful actress, but I don't think that "Da Vinci Code" made great use of her talents and charm. I enjoyed the book more than the movie, but the movie was fun. I don't have strong feelings on the issues involved with the story(well most of them:)) but I think if you just go in with the attitude that 'its entertainment' it is great for what it is. The rest of the stuff, take with a grain of salt. Not as much fact in there as the author liked to imply(was he ever at Bethel?)but he had a lot of fun with extrapolation, and I can appreciate a good story anyday!
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ITALIAN MARRIED COUPLES
by Dansk inon italian radio the host said: 50% of married couples are having an affair.
if it isn't you it must be your wife!!
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JWdaughter
I have read worse stats-but Italian men have always had a rep, right? My 63 year old mom had a couple of friendly stalkers on her trip to Italy (not scary, but persistantly charming)
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Beard Question For The Girls Out Of JWD (Guys Can Answer Too)
by jayhawk1 ini told my wife i wanted to grow out my beard a little longer.
she said that was fine with her.
then i mentioned i was thinking of letting it get as long as zz top's beards.
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JWdaughter
I like beards sometimes, but those guys have more than is attractive.
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DID I TELL YOU I AM GETTING BAPTISED?
by orangefatcat injust in case i didn't mention it before, i am getting baptized in the anglican church on september the 24th.
this is my new beginning to a spirital awakening and i am so happy about it.
sharing with you all a happy moment in my life.
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JWdaughter
Good for you! I am happy that you are going to be blessed in this way. I hope you have/had a wonderful day of celebration.
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Innocent until proven guilty...or really the other way round?
by FreedomFrog inok, most of the criminals do need to be put away, but there are some out there that get trapped into a situation and had to spend time in prison for a crime they didn't commit.
some are held without bail until trial.
on cnn about the jonbenet's case they stated '"john karr is presumed innocent," she said, adding that investigators had "much more work" to do and urging people not to rush to judgment.
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JWdaughter
We pay attention to really large crimes, the attention getters. In those cases they set bail high, based on evidence, the ability of the accused to abscond from the country, and the violence or danger that they apparently present. For many felonies, the amount of Bail is 5000 or even less, and it requires a $500 donation to the local bail bondsman. The thing is, we do have law, and a system of justice. Part of the job that the govt. takes upon itself is to protect, and if they have enough reason to charge you with a crime, there is a pretty good chance that you present some risk to the community.
Now, whether Karr is guilty or innocent in reality-we know a few things about him that are not in dispute. HE SAYS HE DID IT. He is a pedophile. He has a passport. He was in the process of changing his identity/appearance. You want him running around, leaving the country, doing whatever he wants? To your kids? If he is innocent, then we deal with that, but while he is claiming to be the bad guy, I am content to believe him until YES he proves otherwise.
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CAN YOU HAVE A NORMAL LIFE OUTSIDE OF THE JW ORGANIZATION?
by juni inhas anyone else heard these words from the platform?
"people say they want to live a "normal" life.
but nothing is "normal" in this world.
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JWdaughter
During a recent conversation with my very depressed, alcoholic JW mom, she told me I seemed so happy (in spite of some extenuating circumstances with health, etc) and she really didn't understand why. . .this from a member of the happiest organization on earth. I have a normal life. Some good, some bad, but my hope isn't in some nebulous new order, but in the things I look forward to that I can make happen. I have real hope. I don't look forward to the end of the world, or the destruction of evil (Ok, I want everyone to just be nice, but I AM the happier one) I do have faith, but my faith rests on a loving God who can know what I do not know. I have no control over that, and I can't know everything about the Creator's plans, but I am pretty happy letting him do his God stuff without me trying to tell people what He means when he says things. I used to get all into in depth study, seriously looking into EVERY issue minutely. I gave that up for happiness and I don't think God has a problem with me trusting him to do his God thing.*
*When I say he, I am using the common term, but I don't think of God as male or female, but as complete.
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Are some people better off staying in the WTS?
by HalfWayThere ini read this forum alot.
though i don't post very often, i thought i would share the following thoughts.
my mother is 70, and lives alone (my parents separated and divorced about 23 years ago).
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JWdaughter
My mom, like some in your family, seem to take more offence at people marrying after they are living together than I can understand.
My mom acts like celebrating a wedding after a couple has had sex is obscene or something. Which to *me* says she is way too focused on the sexual aspect of marriage. Is that the only reason she married? For sex? You might want to ask your loved ones if that is all marriage is about to them. If FINALLY making an 'honest woman' out of your fiance isn't enough to celebrate, what is?
Blessings on your upcoming marriage. I am sorry about the problems that you have with your family, but you are blessed that you still have comm. with them. And if your sisters don't want to go, ask another family member to take your mom. Sisters don't need to be involved.
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Can religion really overcome racial tensions.
by earthtone inin my experience it seems that although religion is suppose to unite all races, it rarely does, as in the case of jehovah's witnesses.. jw's are always talking about how they go serve where the need is great often among individual of a different nationality to help there "brothers and sisters".
they orchastrate international conventions to prove how much they love the" friends" regardless of their race.
they pride themself's on following the counsel of act 10:34,35 where it states:"for a certainty i perceive that god is not partial, but in every nation the man that fears him and works righteousness is acceptable to him.
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JWdaughter
I think racial tensions will be overcome as the world gets smaller. Even my majorly prejudiced f-i-l got over it when he got to know his grandchildren whose father was black. Once your own blood is 'mixed' with that of another race, it is easier to see they are just family, real people and that is all that matters. I grew up in a home that wasn't overtly 'biased' but during a couple of affirmative action jags, the carpenters union stirred up a lot of anger between races that I observed among my dad and his friends. None of this is about the JWs, I think it is a people/society issue that is ever changing, and I hope, improving, especially as my oldest son is of a mixed race.
I think that in the org. any overt racism is likely more individually based rather than organizational, in spite of their stupid comments in the past about those of other races. Many religions have that stupidity in their history. JWs are as bad, but probably no worse than the rest of them. I think.