Dear Richie-If you lived near me in WA, I'd mother the heck out of you. Just ask my 18 year old! What is the saying? Friends are God's way of making up for your family. Or something like that. I am sorry for the estrangement. She may just come around some day. I always wanted a red-haired son. Live well, be happy--in your mom's heart of hearts, that is what she wants for you-right now she just doesn't understand that her version of happy will not make you happy. Take care. Forgive my 'triteness'. I mean it all and wish you well and happy.
JWdaughter
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Saw My Mother!!!
by RichieRich ini was on my way home today, and i passed my mother on the road.
tears came to my eyes immediately, just at the sight of her face.. i hate this religion.. but i love my mom.. i can't even remember, when the last time we spoke was.. i just want to sit down and talk to her, but i can't- i won't- because its her fault.
i left a religion, she left her son.
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Keep ears and eyes open: Possible announcement this Wednesday
by truthseeker inno hype - no rumor please.. anyone who still goes to the hall might hear something during the announcements.
i will be going myself and will be sure to report back what is said, if anything.. from channelc.. .
http://www.channelc.org/cgi-bin/eboard30/index.cgi.
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JWdaughter
I can think of a few ways that an announcement could affect some of us-for example-formal shunning of anyone who has rejected jehovah's org-even if never baptised. I have personally been waiting for that one with some trepidation. I know my mom loves me, but not quite sure if organizational loyalty trumps mother love. I could imagine (optimistically) her deciding to keep associating with me and damn the consequences. I could imagine her telling me I can go to meetings or have her dump me. . .the problem for her and MOST JWs is that they would be totally cut off from most of their family-as most JWs have 'witnessed' to everyone they love to some extent and certainly their children have been exposed.
I guess we can laugh off 'big announcements' but don't forget how some announcements have far reaching consequences. Not the ones the WT is trying to get everyone excited about, but organizational dictates do affect lives beyond the Borg.
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WHY IS THE WTBTS OBSESSED WITH MASTURBATION????!!!!!
by Gill inwhat exactly is the cause of the wtbts total obsession with masturbation?.
is there any religion in the world that has printed so many articles on this topic?.
if your feelings are similart to those of luiz, pedro or andre, take courage.
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So stupid, the more you DON'T do something, the more you think about it. So instead of taking care of the 'urge' you focus on it all day/life long and become psycho about sex. THAT's a good alternative to masterbating a couple times a week and going on to do other things with your life. . .Masterbation is more likely to get your mind OFF of sex than to keep you focused on it.
Shelly
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Bizarre November 2006 KM
by yakata inthe insert is called "how do i view blood fractions and medical procedures involving my own blood?
" i will attempt to transcribe the more salient points for everyone here.. paragraph 1 (verbatim): the bible commands christians to "abstain ... from blood.
" (acts 15:20) thus, jehovah's witnesses do not accept transfusions of whole blood or the four primary components of blood-namely, red blood cells, white blood cells, platelets, and plasma.
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I have just had it with the "conscience" matter stuff. Bible trained conscience. BULL. They are told what to do and they do it. It has not one darn thing to do with the Bible. They do not make decisions based on their conscience-that would indicate thought on their part. If they made decisions based on 'Bible trained Conscience" then they wouldn't have to be TOLD what their Bible trained conscience is telling them to do! (swearing under my breath now!!!) Arrgh.
Love, Shelly
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elders and alcohol
by chuckyy inwhen i was an elder most of the rest of the body drank like fish, some would regularly get drunk and it was always ignored.
then these very same elders would reprove a young lad for excessive drinking!
was there similar hypocrisy in your cong????.
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My mom is not an elders wife but needs excessive alcohol, prozac and sleeping pills. She won't admit to the doctor that she uses alcohol-even when I simply asked a question about it while in a consultation with her. She flat out lied about it. (She had told me that she was on an antidepressant that was OK to take with alcohol-another lie-then denied the entire incident to me and the doctor)
I think the JWs ought to just have AA meetings there at the hall before the ministry school or something. Since everyone is stuck there all night anyhow.
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Contact after 3+ years
by mjarka911 inwell, never say never i guess.
after 3 years of shunning from my hard core jw family - my sister shows up unannounced at my firehouse yesterday to say hello.
although a brief visit - she said she had been driving by my firehouse for 2 years while going to her job and she finally got up the nerve to drop by and say hello.
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JWdaughter
I am hoping for the best. Humanity can win out over theocracy!! I believe it.
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An elder told me that I can give blood here, but not there...
by JH ina few years ago, i was diagnosed with too much iron in my blood.
most people lack iron, but i have too much.
with time, this iron lodges in the body, and it's not good.. so, my doctor told me to give blood a few times a year and this problem would be solved.
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JWdaughter
They are nuts. Let them know you go to the BB and then challenge them on their faulty logic/theology/doctrine and make them squirm. When they disfellowship you-and they will-make a huge PR headache for them, notify everyone in the cong. and the newspapers, magazines, etc., so that the world can see them for what they truly are.
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Hello again...
by MacHislopp inafter a long , long spell i'll try to partecipate again to this excellent forum.. i'm preparing something and meanwhile i wish to greet all the new ones,.
the older and well known posters including the administrators of this.
j.c. machislopp.
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JWdaughter
Welcome back. I don't know you-but look forward to getting to know you. Glad you are recovering! Take care.
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But what if they're right............still the Truth?
by ScoobySnax inthis will probably apply to few here, but to me it'll always be that way.
it's the what if syndrome maybe, but it's always there.
i still think that as a core belief system the jw's have it right, even if their delivery isn't always right.
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JWdaughter
Theyoungone: Welcome to the board. I don't know why you were expelled from congregation, but was it joy that led you to the transgression?
My experience with JWs as a small child were not horrible-other than being told to expect the 'end' imminently, and expecting that I would be put in a concentration camp and regularly abused and persecuted. But the folks in my cong. seemed nice enough.
Then I grew up. No longer a JW (never baptised, so officially you can read this)and come to find out that there was abuse in many of the homes in our cong. My mother is a JW and so 'happy' that she is alcoholic, depressed, takes sleeping meds so she can sleep and while physically healthy, is perfectly content to die today. She is not even waiting for armageddon anymore. Her brother is alcoholic, lost one child because of cancer/blood issues, one to suicide and the other is extrememly mentally ill. Youngest daughter married an abusive(non JW man). A cousin killed her husband and his mistress, her son killed her younger son in a hunting 'accident'. My best childhood friend married an abusive mentally ill man whose JW family sent him far from his home to find a wife that didn't know his history. A friend married the son of an elder and found the whole family to be alcoholic and abusive to women. Most of the others I know left the org. soon after HS (I thought they were all so "strong" in the "truth".) Most knew it was hooey. So do you. You think it is better hooey than the rest. It is the same, only more self righteous and obnoxious.
Morality is taught in all churches that I am aware of and have attended. JWs may think they are the only ones that push it, but that is not true. JWs did not invent that promise to wait club-I think it was southern baptists or a interdenom. group. JWs, as you know sin as much as any other group. They are just in denial that it happens. They are no happier than any other group. I personally think LESS so from the JWs I know and know of. And as my entire maternal family is mostly JW or formerly JW, I know of what I speak.
I hope you will really examine your own beliefs, and see where they really fall in line with the WT and which things you just try to ignore and pretend don't exist so that you don't have to admit it isn't all perfect. I bet that you, like many of us, have a huge section of JW things that you just put out of your pretty little head, cause you don't want to rock your faith. Remember that the organization is NOT God, not Jehovah, NOT Jesus. It is an organization made up of MEN. The org wants you to remember that when they have falsely taught, but when they want you to follow the rules, they are God's voice on earth and expect you to jump. You are not to question, you are not to doubt-cause to doubt the org is to doubt Jehovah God. I am here to tell you now that you are not doubting Jehovah God if you don't believe everything the Watchtower is teaching you. You are only doubting fallible men. And that is totally allowed!
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Do you agree with this statement?
by JW_Researcher indo you agree with this statement?
"leaders (called elders) of a given congregation are selected from within and there is routine and frequent turnover.".
from: stark, rodney & iannaccone, laurence.
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JWdaughter
In the 15 years I was in, I don't remember any changes except new guys becoming MS. The same guys were elders forever. I imagine that is different in some areas, but there were certainly other men in the cong. that were at least as well qualified(insofar as that goes!)