I am lonely. Seriously. I am surrounded by a lot of young kids, I get proposals from taxi drivers and the occasional security guy, but I really have not made any friends here in town yet. Any grownups in Egypt? If you speak English it's a bonus, though I am in my second week of Arabic class.
JWdaughter
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Anyone else in Egypt
by JWdaughter ini am lonely.
i am surrounded by a lot of young kids, i get proposals from taxi drivers and the occasional security guy, but i really have not made any friends here in town yet.
any grownups in egypt?
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JWdaughter
Wow, that was funny-the devoted defender of all that is 'truly' JW. Must be a disgruntled member-indeed. I bet Anthony Morris or whoever is a pretty disgruntled person. He looks very disgruntled to me-how bout you all?
My mom is going to the convention this weekend in Tacoma. Driving some older ladies in each day. I wonder if she will watch the video at all-she is in her 60's and none of her grandkids are JW. OTOH, I imagine she will want to keep it around to 'teach' them (in a fun and OH so entertaining way, of course) about obeying Jehovah. Because my siblings havent already nearly eliminated her contact with their children because of her interferance and 'witnessing' to the kids. She thinks she is ever so subtle, but seriously, the sparlock videos are masterfully subtle in ocmparison to mom, bless her heart!!
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marriage without affection/sex/touching
by zeb inyes thats my situation.
some where along the path of life the wt guilt trip was dumped on our marriage and we havent had sex for years.. anyone else?
the hearts and flowers and gifts and doing the cleaning, the house work and paying the daily accounts never being drunk on drugs playing the horses or screwing others yep its all there but nothing coming back due to the wt guilt trip.. they made so much of 'oral sex' and 'pornea' incorrectly quoted at that and ventured thereby into areas they were patently very ill equipped to comment on.
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JWdaughter
Zeb, I think you are done with this subject, but just wanted to add my 2 pesetas worth-I was in such a marriage for many years. I am female and my ex husband got the urge about every 2 years or so. I can't blame the WT for him-he's got the Catholic guilt, I guess. Anyway, I divorced him. I am really happy I did it and while I missed certain aspects of marriage, he is not one of them!
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JWdaughter
Ah, a man in uniform! A beautiful thing.
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omg..lol
by XBEHERE ini resisted all these weeks and finally i watched the clip of the new video: "obey jehovah" lol... are the really fracking serious with this?
the snake holding the sparlock toy?
rotfl.... i am embarrassed to still be a jw.
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JWdaughter
Sparlock is old news on the board, but lots of JWs just recently made his acquaintance. I wonder what they think of him? I wonder how they reconcile obedience to Jehovah with the malicious behavior that the WT has promulgated for the last 10 decades or so? Yikes, glad I am not a JW.
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Hospitality after Public Talk - ???
by RubaDub ini see a lot of mentions about hospitality after the public talk and honestly, i guess it is a practice that was not in the ny/ct area i grew up in or here in south florida today.. i grew up with an elder father and grandfather who gave public talks and were generally well-liked.
as a child, i never recall being invited to someone's house after the meeting.
granted, it was rare to travel more than an hour but regardless, it was typical to get in the car and head home after the "amens.
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JWdaughter
Silly me, I thought when I saw this thread that there was some new policy of tea and snacks after the sunday meeting or something nice and friendly-hospitable like that! Not bloody likely!
I think they always were hospitable to oot speakers, but we usually had the same old local elders or one from so close that he might as well have been (redondo/des moines). I know we did stuff for the co/do's, and I was ONE time invited.
After meetings, I don't remember any kind of social gatherings that involved families, but there was a roller skating thing we did fairly reglarly when we had sunday mornings. I don't know what we ddi when we had evening meetings (cry??) but the kids and a few adults or young married couples had fun at the roller skating rink. Until we were shut down we had a (dare I say it?? ) FUN watchtower study on the Sat before the sunday meeting. It was fun cause we played murder (or some such game) and ate a lot of food.
Once we went on a work project on someones property on an island(??) Which was fine, these were a family (JW mom/non JW dad) that always made us welcome and were really nice to everyone (ok, rarely saw the parents, maybe that was the beauty of that scenario, but we were good kids). I had my first glass of wine when I was 14 at their house (adults knew-and I never got a taste for it) Ah, the social life of my congregation was really tame. New Jersey though, totally different story. They went clubbing, drinking and listened to heavy metal with impunity.
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Your most DISTURBING WATCHTOWER Bethel/Branch experience? (No full names please)
by Balaamsass inok.. you 70 plus bethelite members.... this is your chance to share stories!
inquiring minds want to know !no full names please..follow t.o.s.
to avoid borg libel lawsuits).. i will start the ball rolling with week one.
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JWdaughter
Longhairgal, I think the comment "half of us are here to test the other half" wasn't meant to be an excuse for anyone to be assholes, it was a warning to the nice innocent naive newbies that they were going to be disillusioned by the actions of others frequently. I think it was meant to be an encouragement to keep the faith because otherwise, they would all go mental like the guys who were carried bodily out of the dining room never to be seen again.. . . .just my .02.Because the people who test us are not usually trying to(test us, specifically), they are just naturally obnoxoius people. OTOH, who knows what kind of mind games were going on in that nuthouse?
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The "Secrecy Policy
by Celestial ini've given this recent lawsuit quite a bit of thought and come to sound conclusions.
after examining other organization's child-protection policies (namely churches), what i've come to realize is there's a one-size fits all solution that's socially acceptable; all information obtained through witnesses and confessions by organizational personnel is be used to aid and abet law-enforcement.
there's no in-between or anything short of this objective that's socially acceptable.
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JWdaughter
Just a point about the Conti case and similar ones: Why the HELL are mothers speaking to elders about their husbands touching their young daughters breasts? If it is innocent, they sure as HELL would not be speaking to anyone. If any mother knew or could reasonably construe that it was, there is NO way they would bring it up to anyone (we have all been (truly) inadvertantly touched, and we have all been DELIBERATELY touched and we know the difference. We do not take people to court for brushing up against us in a crowd. A man deliberately (and we know it was) touching a young girls breast should not be given a discussion by a religous leader-while it is a character issue, it is first a criminal issue.
EVERY person in EVERY church that knows of or experiences abuse should be told to go to the legal authorities first and then seek spiritual help. NOT to let the religions off the hook (although it would cut out a LOT of crap in the world), but to protect the children/women/men who are victims.
People need to stop treating sexual abuse as if it is a moral faiiling first. It is a CRIMINAL ACT. If they need spiritual help, they should get it-after they report to the police or DFS (I suggest the police as I am not sure what kind of games social services might play since they are so interested in "keeping families together".
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What Do Jehovah's Witnesses Have Going For Them?
by minimus inthere must be a reason jws stay or people join..
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JWdaughter
It is presented in a reasonable and logical way that to a vulnerable person, does not scream "manipulative", but it IS manipulative and sucks them in based on their vulnerabilities (which a good study FS participant or study conductor will latch onto and highlight).
They frost a turd.
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A question specially for ladies ...
by Dudu indid you change the way you dress after leaving the wt?.
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JWdaughter
I dress modestly, but now it is MY choice-I don't have elders or my mom telling me what is appropriate-I decided that for my self based on MY standards, not anyone elses. My standards are more modest, but more stylish than JWs generally, so I'm pretty happy. One thing-I NEVER wear anything that my mom might ever have worn to a meeting. NOTHING that looks like a meeting outfit or a purse that my mom would have carried. EVER. I am particularly careful about patterns on skirts that remind me of my mom's old favorites and the classic "book bag" which, as a reader and a student now, handicaps me a bit, but I avoid anything that looks like I might see it in a Kingdom Hall. That is my standard:)