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  Protect governing body with your life

  by Zoos in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there was a quote in the literature some years back about protecting the governing body from secular authorities and insinuated that we should do whatever it took to insure their safety.. i seem to remember it was something about refusing to help the authorities locate the governing body.

  i may be off track here.

  if this is familiar to you could you please help me find the quote?.

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  JWdaughter

  I think BOTR is a female and got run out of here/or left-pissed off.
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  TRUE STORY Christian Longo Movie

  by JWdaughter in

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  2. entertainment

  has anyone seen this movie about christian longo and his adventures in id theft?

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  JWdaughter

  thanks for info
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  TRUE STORY Christian Longo Movie

  by JWdaughter in

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  2. entertainment

  has anyone seen this movie about christian longo and his adventures in id theft?

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  JWdaughter

  Has anyone seen this movie about Christian Longo and his adventures in ID Theft?
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  Kendrick " Letter of Introduction " from Elders regarding Candace Conti Case

  by flipper in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  as many of us saw in the pbs news hour program and the abc news nightline program the elders from one congregation failed to communicate properly to the elders in another congregation concerning the child molester jonathan kendrick when he moved to a new congregation.

  i have parts of this " introduction letter " from the fremont congregation to the oakley congregation elders so you can read it for yourself and decide how irresponsible these wt appointed elders were.

  dated 1/16/98 it opens : .

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  JWdaughter

  This all brings up a thought I have often had about the WTBTS/JWs. They pride themselves on their organization to a degree that is pretty offensive generally. How could Jehovah do any of his work without an organization? Well, yeah, they have one. And yet, with all that organization, they don't do any of the good that they COULD do with it-like helping people, having and using a database of people who are known criminals or abusers so that the elders have fair warning, It all seems kind of helter skelter. They have rules, supposedly, but no one is following the ones that could do any good. And all that organizational power sends a known child molester to another congregation with recommendations that he work with kids.

  Most religions have no such "organization" corporately, yet, individual congregations check anyone who works with children or the public for criminal history. They would NOT allow such a person to volunteer in any position which would put a vulnerable person in danger. What good is the WT ORGANIZATION if they can't organize a basic protection for the congregation?
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  "What will I do if I leave Jehovah's Witnesses ?"

  by Balaamsass2 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  whenever we visit the board we see a lot of angst among jehovah's witnesses who are just learning the tatt (the truth about the truth).

  hey, don't feel bad, we had it at one time ourselves.

  "angst means fear or anxiety (anguish is its latinate equivalent, and anxious, anxiety are of similar origin).

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  JWdaughter

  We all experience different things when leaving this religion. One thing we can all share in common is to be strategic about it. So that we don't lose everything in our eagerness to shed the burden of being a JW. We had it for (fill in the blank) years, we can take the time to get all our ducks in a row.

  Line up your ducks, people!!
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  New KH design announcement?

  by StarTrekAngel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  has there been any official announcement made regarding the new kh design?

  i am asking because i know some publishers on my cong that already seen the pics from elders who attended the presentation.

  also made me wonder how long would it be before they have to dedicate a section of the meeting (local needs?

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  JWdaughter

  There is a new building on Hosmer in Tacoma WA.The ONLY ID on the actual building is JW.org! There is a sign on the gate (it locks up tight). I think the only windows are in the front lobby area, but I will have to drive by to see for sure.

  It is very much an office/strip mall kind of building. Not real big-a branch of a credit union or a 2 person medical practice, maybe? But again, just looking at the outside as a drive by. It will be easy to sell once they drive out the congregation to another site and keep doing the flip game-it is in a very commercial area, very close to the local regional Group Health (HMO), and lots of hotels, restaurants, and other "right off the interstate" kinds of businesses. You could probably see it on one of those street view maps,but it looks really new. I just moved here, so I couldn't say for sure HOW new.
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  Latest on Otuo v Jonathan David Morely & Watchtower Bible and Tract Society + Otuo v Watchtower Bible & Tract Society

  by Adwoa Kromo in

  1. forum
  2. links

  a month ago someone inquired about where the case against watchtower in otuo v watchtower was at currently.

  firstly the claimant has brought two separate claims against the watchtower .

  case 1 relates to a suit in slander premised on the words , "frank otuo is no longer a jehovah witness".

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  JWdaughter

  The WT likes legal technicalities. Whether they win or lose, if they have made technical arguments to barr or win a case they can claim persecution if not victory. It doesn't matter why they are victorious or that they are not really persecuted, but they have their excuses in their pocket.
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  Just had a blow up with jw mom and she said the bible referenced angels being called gods, it that true?

  by Question_Mans_interpretation in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  long story short my mom was acting weird, snubbing me, when i tried bringing her grandkids to see her, so i tried again and this time i just went up and hugged her since she wouldn't hug me or acknowledge any affection.

  when i released her i immediately saw her annoyed look and asked what?

  bang, she unleashes a floodgate of how she's still mad at me for going to another church that believes the trinity.

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  JWdaughter

  As the trinity isnt that critical to you (and I never bought it), you might want to think about what I said to my mom.l

  I told my mom that I chose to go to churches that encouraged people to follow christ and to show his character. I did not and do not feel that the dogma is what is what IDs "true" christians, it is the way they demonstrate a christian character. JWs discourage all the true neighborly and brotherly love that is taught in the NT-it ignores the best counsel to christians and makes up legalistic rules.

  I am no longer a christian, but I totally respect Christians who are following Jesus' example of love. I don't care about denonimations-a JW, Mormon, catholic, baptist. . . but CHURCHES that are just pushing dogma while leaving the real teachings behind-are useless.
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  GB Bodyguards

  by Socrateswannabe in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i have heard that at the international conventions and even at us headquarters, the governing body travel with entourages or bodyguards.

  does anyone know this to be a fact?

  if so, why?

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  They are hotshots in the org and there are some folks out and about the could conceivably have anger towards them-or who just want to make a statement, generally. In a big crowd it seems like not a bad idea, honestly. Few are young men and there are some angry folks around.

  HOWEVER, if one considers that until maybe 15- 20 years ago, Bill Gates traveled around in a Toyota Camry kind of car on his own when he was worth a LOT more than the Org ever has been. . . they do seem to be rather self important generally. A lot more folks give and gave a darn about what Bill gates did and said than will ever give a rats ass about what the Borgians have to say.
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  1975 failed prediction?

  by Garrett in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  heyo,.

  your favorite garrett here.

  so, i'm about to have an elder tell me allll about the failed 1975 doctrine.

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  JWdaughter

  I have people close to me from Pakistan who remember 1975 predictions that they learned of while IN Pakistan. There are indeed JWs there(and they preached that date a LOT there) and there have been for many years. They are open (There are large Christian groups in Pakistan, particularly in the more southern areas) in their faith for the most part, as most Christians are. The non-trinitarian aspect of the WT teachings is a door opener to Christianity as a whole to Muslims and Hindu's alike (a lot of both also in S. Pakistan). Officially, I don't know if they are recognized, but unofficially, they are not hiding.

  While you hear of horrible instances of religious based crime(well, even in OUR country), for the most part, they get along fine among all three religions. The family I am close to has Hindu doctors and Christian drivers and maids who are treated as family members and were honored guests in the home I was visiting. It is noteworthy that those who become Christian are usually from the lower castes and are coming from a disadvantaged social position-but they are just like every Indian I have ever met-they are crazy about getting their kids educated and helping them move up a few levels of the social ladder(both Islam and Christianity don't support the caste system though it lingers in some areas. I wonder how the love of education and upward mobility translates among the JWs who are at best, ambivalent and at worst, hostile towards higher education? I only met Catholics while there.