Thanks Shutter,
Ironic that I have thought of that but have been scared that the elders will find out and pounce on me and possibly form a JC.
5th
P.S. Funny how I can help other people with advice but can't figure out my own problems.
just got back from the doctor and he was alarmed at my liver function test.
he sent me for an ultrasound of my liver and i'm being tested for hep.. problem:.
my drinking way too much is because i have a hard time dealing with wanting to leave the 'truth' but can't.
Thanks Shutter,
Ironic that I have thought of that but have been scared that the elders will find out and pounce on me and possibly form a JC.
5th
P.S. Funny how I can help other people with advice but can't figure out my own problems.
just got back from the doctor and he was alarmed at my liver function test.
he sent me for an ultrasound of my liver and i'm being tested for hep.. problem:.
my drinking way too much is because i have a hard time dealing with wanting to leave the 'truth' but can't.
Just got back from the doctor and he was alarmed at my liver function test. He sent me for an ultrasound of my liver and I'm being tested for hep.
PROBLEM:
My drinking way too much is because I have a hard time dealing with wanting to leave the 'truth' but can't. Family, friends, wife, kids...
Who needs Armageddon? The Society will just kill us off right now!
Any advice?
i have a problem you may all be able explain to me.. why do so many posters argue posts made by people still active in the 'truth' who still know exactly what's happening right now?.
it makes no sense.. those of us that are still attending, some in high positions, are often times challenged as to our information.. i had a big fight a long while way back about the society banning watchtower symbols on khs (which they did).
i read the official wt letter but some posters jumped on me that it was not true.
They didn't say to remove the WT logo if it is already there.
They said that new KH can't have a Watchtower in its brickwork or whatever.
i hope everyone is doing well.. .
is there anyone out there well-versed in the 'shepherd' book and judicial proceedings?.
a wee bit o' background..... i have been 'out' for about 3 years now.
Well at least Snakes gets some Kudos!
i hope everyone is doing well.. .
is there anyone out there well-versed in the 'shepherd' book and judicial proceedings?.
a wee bit o' background..... i have been 'out' for about 3 years now.
Snakes,
You nailed it.
Good job!
i hope everyone is doing well.. .
is there anyone out there well-versed in the 'shepherd' book and judicial proceedings?.
a wee bit o' background..... i have been 'out' for about 3 years now.
Why is this so difficult?
The situation is NOT a completely different matter.
He is, in effect, a complete 'stranger' to the local congo just like any householder.
THEY HAVE NO RECORD OF HIM!
There is no difference between a 'worldly' householder and a former JW of which the local cong has ZERO history.
i hope everyone is doing well.. .
is there anyone out there well-versed in the 'shepherd' book and judicial proceedings?.
a wee bit o' background..... i have been 'out' for about 3 years now.
RollerDave,
That was just some crazy fluke that caused a knee jerk reaction from some bonehead elders.
As I said, pretty rare!
Normally, they wouldn't ever happen to see a copy of CoC in an inactive householder's home.
i have a problem you may all be able explain to me.. why do so many posters argue posts made by people still active in the 'truth' who still know exactly what's happening right now?.
it makes no sense.. those of us that are still attending, some in high positions, are often times challenged as to our information.. i had a big fight a long while way back about the society banning watchtower symbols on khs (which they did).
i read the official wt letter but some posters jumped on me that it was not true.
I have a problem you may all be able explain to me.
Why do so many posters argue posts made by people still active in the 'truth' who still know exactly what's happening right now?
It makes no sense.
Those of us that are still attending, some in high positions, are often times challenged as to our information.
I had a big fight a long while way back about the Society banning Watchtower symbols on KHs (WHICH THEY DID). I read the official WT letter but some posters jumped on me that it was not true.
I think people on this board should start to show some respect to those still active as JWs that can pass along a lot of good info!
Edit: to all. Especially because a lot of you have helped me at times!
i hope everyone is doing well.. .
is there anyone out there well-versed in the 'shepherd' book and judicial proceedings?.
a wee bit o' background..... i have been 'out' for about 3 years now.
Sorry minimus,
Complete strangers with no publisher record card, no congregation file, no association with any congregation and not claiming to be an active JW will not be hunted down and disfellowshipped.
You sure speak in absolutes for someone who's obviously been away a long time.
There are some of us who are still in who know the scoop.
the "judicial loophole" thread gave me a thought- what would happen if someone faded a la moving far away but then later decided to start all over again and pretend to know nothing about jws and go through the motions of becoming a jw again?
would there be a record of your first baptism on file at hq?
if so, what if you deny that it's you, that someone else just has the same name?
I think that they would just slide by the system.
6.5 million people. No one at the HQ would be able to keep that close a watch.
After all, they don't have our DNA or thumb prints!
My take: Brother Smith would just slide right back in as a new publisher.