Posts by daystar

I am still a little stunned about the whole immorality issue. Apparently a person is not able to think on their own unless they have sinned. It is amazing to me that the immediate "out" to excuse my attitude is sin. "He is running from his sin." How transparent is that? Noone will ever leave the dubs if they 1st don't sin. That is probably the most telling and enlightening thing to come out of this. Think about it. It is very similar to what happened to Eve and Adam. They disobey, so suddenly they realize they are naked. I do not believe, therefore I must have sinned. If that is all it took to get my mind right, I would have done it years ago and never stopped. I have a wife and kids. I will not lose them for something so unimportant as immorality.

According to the bible, we are all sinners just by way of having been born. Sooo... the argument used is rather silly. But, they always assume that, don't they? If someone leaves, it must be because they've sinned!

My opinion is that the sect's rules are so draconian that one can't help but "sin". And the "sins" become so unnaturally magnified!

It's horrific.

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If you would have won lots of money playing lottery as a JW...

by JH in

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18 years ago

imagine if you would have won lots of money playing the lottery, while being an active jw, how would you have wiggled your way out of it?.

would you have admitted playing and winning, or invented a story that you inherited lots of money or would you have just moved elsewhere where no one knows you, and you would have lived a very comfortable life still as a jw, or would you have simply quit being a jw?.

18 years ago

daystar 18 years ago

I am fairly certain that I would have just stopped going. Then again, I was barely legal to win the lottery when I did stop going.

I'm glad I didn't win the lottery during that time. I think things would have gotten very bad.

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Missing someone... badly

by daystar in

18 years ago

brigid took a weekend trip back to where she moved from to visit family.. i know it's selfish of me, but i miss her very, very badly.

i have never missed anyone so badly in my life, other than my son when he visits his mother.

and it's only been three days.. it's very lonely here without her.

18 years ago

daystar 18 years ago

Daystar I dont want to alarm you but it no longer is the weekend. You sure she is coming back?

Well, she drove, so she needed to take an extra day. She should be back tonight. It's just unbelievable how her being gone for even this short period of time has affected me.

It makes me feel weak. But it also makes it very clear to me just how meaningful she is to me.

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Missing someone... badly

by daystar in

18 years ago

brigid took a weekend trip back to where she moved from to visit family.. i know it's selfish of me, but i miss her very, very badly.

i have never missed anyone so badly in my life, other than my son when he visits his mother.

and it's only been three days.. it's very lonely here without her.

18 years ago

daystar 18 years ago

Brigid took a weekend trip back to where she moved from to visit family.

I know it's selfish of me, but I miss her very, very badly. I have never missed anyone so badly in my life, other than my son when he visits his mother. And it's only been three days.

It's very lonely here without her. I miss seeing her smile, hearing her voice, smelling her hair, feeling her touch... and, it's only been three days.

So much for strength and independence, huh? She has me so very hooked...

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Describe a typical Saturday for a jw child

by carla in

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18 years ago

please describe a typical saturday for a jw child.

reason being my jw once told me that all jw children love the door to door (yeah right) and they have all afternoon to play.

don't they need to get ready for the sunday service?

18 years ago

daystar 18 years ago

Well, my family was not exactly regular in service. We attended all meetings for the most part, but Sat. service was hit or miss.

When my parents insisted we go out in service, I absolutely hated it.

When we didn't, I had a blast. Watched Saturday morning cartoons nearly until lunchtime, then played outside for the rest of the evening.

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They are stalking me,,

by gabriella in

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18 years ago

i recently moved back to my home town after being away for several years and doing the "fade".

i have family still in, so people heard that i was back in town.

i got six invitations to the memorial and a couple of phone calls about the special talk.

14 years ago

daystar 18 years ago

How can I get the visits to stop without being forced to disassociate myself? Has anything worked for you?

They're probably trying to figure out where you stand. If you do happen to actually speak to an elder, I suspect they'll eventually be asking you that one key question that will get you marked for certain. Something like "Do you believe JWs are the earthly representative of Jehovah" or something like that. Someone else here can probably provide the exact phrasing.

I don't know how you might get the visits to stop without DAing yourself. I think their goal is to either get you to come back to the meetings, or determine if you should be DA'd, etc.

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