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  Dallas Aposta-Crawfest -- A GREAT Success!

  by Elsewhere in

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  i wanted to thank everyone who helped make this great event happen!

  everyone really stepped up and helped enormously... if it were not for all of you the apasta-crawfest would not have been anywhere as great.

  several people approached me discreetly to provide monetary support, which is greatly appreciated.

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  Joy!?

  Yes, I'm afraid you did.

  Else, very glad everything worked out with the office.
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  A Major Dream Has Been Fulfilled!!!!!

  by XJW4EVR in

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  it has always been a dream of mine to transfer to, and graduate from the university of southern california.

  last year i applied, and about two weeks ago i was accepted.

  that was cool, but i had no way of paying for it, and the financial aid i applied for would not cover enough of the tuition, and other fees.

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  Dude!! That rocks!!!
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  Is Jehovah a chick-magnet?

  by PopeOfEruke in

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  growing up in a divided household, i remember wondering about my jw mother and how she would dress up to the 9's when going to the meetings.

  nice dress, makeup, hair done, perfume.. it would drive my non-jw father crazy and i swear that dad was jealous of jehovah.. i also personally felt that mum was dressing up almost as if for a "date".

  it was somehow weird, almost sexual.. was my mum dressing up for jehovah?

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  Let the children listen to JW family members preach to them or shield them?

  by FreedomFrog in

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  i thought i'd start a new thread since my other thread was leading into a different topic.

  hopefully i can get many different views on this.

  i understand the concern not allowing children to be preach to by jw family members.

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  What's your thoughts?

  I think you have it pretty well handled.

  It's hard to resist protecting a child from every scratch, every hurt, they may face. It's better to teach them how to deal with the hurt, the challenges, on their own, with open eyes.
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  Are JW's generally better than average people?

  by JH in

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  i for one, would blindly trust just about anyone on this forum, just the fact of knowing that you already were a jw.. does this mean that jw's in general are better people or are we a very close bunch of people?.

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  To some people, they cannot grasp the concept that not revealing 'everything' is tantamount to lying.

  Have to pity them.

  When leaving that detail out causes a misconception to be held, it is tantamount to lying. Satan, the great deceiver is your father.

  You know what? Why am I being Jehovah's advocate here? I don't know. If your mental trapeze allowing you to lie or misrepresent or deceive works to keep you in your heart of hearts away from a true understanding of the Divine, then so be it.

  I for one have no problem with lying when absolutely necessary. But the truth is so much more powerful. Stay weak. The more of you who remain weak and out of touch with Jehovah, the Divine, the better for the rest of us.
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  Would you do it for the sake of the kids?

  by pratt1 in

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  i have a very close friend, who is still an active dub.

  we have known each other since we were kids and we have been able to maintain a strong friendship - we are actually more like brothers than friends.. we have reached a truce - i don't try to talk him out of being a dub and he doesn't try to talk me out of being an apostate.. we have both worked hard to honor this rule.. my problem is, i am the "godfather" of his son.

  meaning if something should happen to him and his wife, i would raise his son.. i have a very close relationship with the boy, he is 7 and smart as a whip.

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  My wife came up with an interesting suggestion. She said "Why not allow the kid to come over and practise his talk in front of Pratt. That way Pratt can help him with his delivery, hear his talk and help him prepare, without actually going."

  You know what? That is a great idea. Kudos to Mrs. Restrangled!
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  Are JW's generally better than average people?

  by JH in

  1. jw
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  i for one, would blindly trust just about anyone on this forum, just the fact of knowing that you already were a jw.. does this mean that jw's in general are better people or are we a very close bunch of people?.

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  It was for their safety that she told the officials that she was his sister.

  She just didn't reveal everything. Because it wasn't called for.

  Sarah did not lie!

  So, according to the WBTS and to the bible, it's okay to present half-truths as whole-truths? According to both, it's okay to mislead and be deceptive then?

  It's no wonder the Witnesses are so screwed up.
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  Would you do it for the sake of the kids?

  by pratt1 in

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  i have a very close friend, who is still an active dub.

  we have known each other since we were kids and we have been able to maintain a strong friendship - we are actually more like brothers than friends.. we have reached a truce - i don't try to talk him out of being a dub and he doesn't try to talk me out of being an apostate.. we have both worked hard to honor this rule.. my problem is, i am the "godfather" of his son.

  meaning if something should happen to him and his wife, i would raise his son.. i have a very close relationship with the boy, he is 7 and smart as a whip.

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  Is there any possibility that the kid starts to think that he can get Uncle Pratt to regularly come to the KH since he got him there for his 1st talk?

  Sure. And I think that is where Pratt would probably want to stand by his principles of not attending any general meetings.

  In any case, Pratt should follow his own conscience in the matter.
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  Are JW's generally better than average people?

  by JH in

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  i for one, would blindly trust just about anyone on this forum, just the fact of knowing that you already were a jw.. does this mean that jw's in general are better people or are we a very close bunch of people?.

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  But isn't Satan the father of the lie?

  So, if you knowingly lie, who's yo' daddy?! Let me hear you say it. Whisper it first, then say it loudly. Yeah baby. Oh yeah...
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  Would you do it for the sake of the kids?

  by pratt1 in

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  i have a very close friend, who is still an active dub.

  we have known each other since we were kids and we have been able to maintain a strong friendship - we are actually more like brothers than friends.. we have reached a truce - i don't try to talk him out of being a dub and he doesn't try to talk me out of being an apostate.. we have both worked hard to honor this rule.. my problem is, i am the "godfather" of his son.

  meaning if something should happen to him and his wife, i would raise his son.. i have a very close relationship with the boy, he is 7 and smart as a whip.

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  daystar...I'm with you...I'm not a complete heartless ass...honest

  I base my opinion on two things...first of all his wifes take....she's privy to the situation..she supports her hubby, yet is staying away...there's probably a very good reason for this

  Secondly, the kid will be getting plenty of support as it is. Pratt1 doesn't attend the KH, so the kid already knows this. It isn't out of place for him to say no at this point. If he says yes, he opens up Pandora's box.

  Solution: Don't go but celebrate his achievement in a different way.

  r's hubby

  Aw, I don't think you're heartless. (In case you can't tell, that's a little joke there.)

  1> His wife is a grown woman. She can have her own opinion and stay away, but he can have his as well.

  2> How does his going open some sort of a Pandora's Box? I think that's rather reaching. I'm sure the kid will be getting support from the congregation. We all know this. But think about what it will prospectively show him when an inactive, or ex, Witness shows up to support him in his endeavors?

  A lot of my opinion on this comes from my own experience with this. My first talk (reading) was when I was seven as well. If I had had even one non-Witness relative, or family friend show up, it would have meant so much to me. And if I had had any non-Witness relative or family friend there and supportive when those cold-hearted elder f*%$ers kicked me to the curb with hardly a hesitation on my first offense ever, I may have fared much better the following years.

  Projecting? Sure. But my point is that we should not underestimate even the smallest act of kindness and sincere interest we can show to the youngest of those misled souls.

  As to your proposed solution, if attending is just too much to handle, I'd say that that might be a tenable, though not ideal, alternative.