exciting concept, my answer is maybe.
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The lives of some JWs. so happy to be out!!!
by rowan injust finished talking on the phone with my mom.
she filled me in with the latest about my old jw acquaintances from before i was df.
good.
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So true. After fighting expulsion for 10 years I can not believe how fantastic I feel about life now I am free.
Even as a child I could not believe how much sickness was in the organisation.
In my cong heaps of people had Candida when it was popular. Then that went out of vogue and it became glandular fever. After that it was Chronic Fatigue, and still is. I don't doubt they were sick, but I believe it was guilt and stress induced.
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Question about baptism
by Shazard inhey people!
i have read that baptism in jw is something very different than in christianity.
so question... is jw baptism somewhat legally binding.
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Sheepish, you still get baptised to the Father Son and HS, but in a very round about way as they do not believe the Holy Spirit has a name as it is not a person.
Watchtower 1985 June 1 p.30
On the basis of the sacrifice of Jesus Christ, have you repented of your sins and dedicated yourself to Jehovah to do his will?
The second is:
Do you understand that your dedication and baptism identify you as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses in association with God’s spirit-directed organization?The WTS has the legal side covered these days. I discussed this with Vin Toole, from the Australian Bethel Legal Department. You are baptised to God's spirit-directed organization, which JWs know is the WTS, but in court that is very hard to prove.
The WTS are also very careful to put nothing in writing. This is a verbal contract, and when you get d/f they refuse to provide the person with anything written. As they say, 'a verbal contract is not worth the paper it is written on".
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Tetra was really happen to know that my 666th post was about him.
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One more time: Watchtower Quotes site??
by Sheepish insorry i know it comes up again and again, but darn it, i can't find it!
i am looking for one of the sites that have only watchtower quotes in it.
did they all get shut down?
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This was a good lesson for the WTS. You can not prevent free speach on the Internet, nor can the WTS stop the truth being discovered.
I have a fear they will try to shut down my site. In my JC they could have d/f me because I said to their face that the WTS is not directed by Holy Spirit and acts like a cult, but they still went to incredible effort to prove my site belonged to me. But why worry? If they try Quotes proves anonymous people will ensure it appears on ten other servers in countries they can not touch, with plenty of free publicity and editorial around the world to make it even more well known. -
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Jehovah's Witness skating parties were da bomb!
by PaNiCAtTaCk inwas this just a local arkansas thing or were jw's everywhere getting jiggy at the skating rink?
we used to have awesome skating parties and witnesses from 150 miles away would come sometimes.
or sometimes we would drive that far to go to one.
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We had them too in Tasmania. They got my virginal teenage hormones jumping. Also ballroom dancing lessons.
Over the years they would get more popular, then some JW's would fornicate afterwards and they would be stopped by the elders. A couple of years later they would slowly restart until something would wrong again. -
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have elders ever been sued successfully?
by silentWatcher inquote: what i am waiting for is one of their rank and file elders to get sued over this issue and some of the hospital liaison puppets to lose everything he owns because of it.
this point was brought up in the "big news has started" thread (and is now buried on page 3).
interesting point, and i wonder if anyone has ever heard of a case where elders have been successfully sued over judicial matters (slander / libel) or wrongful death (blood)?
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Suing is necessary. GGG's point is valid about elders being sincere, but somewhere along the line an example has to be made to stop this sort of behaviour. If the WTS is truly a loving org I am sure some brothers will help the elder out financially.
I dont know too much about the legal side, but suing on religious grounds rarely works. It would have to be on some normal illegal action of the elder. If an elder illegally enters a persons house, threatens a brother, steals a child from a hospital etc there would be grounds to sue. However the guidelines that Bethel gives to the HLC and in the elders manual have been carefully put together by the Bethel Legal Department. If an elder follows the guidelines it will be very hard to sue them.
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Has anyone communicated with the dead, and who do you think it was?
by jwfacts inhas anyone communicated with the dead, and who do you think it was?
what was your experience?.
do you believe it to be the spirit of a person, or a demon, or some other explaination such as a hoax?.
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I always wanted one of these experiences but never did. As a dub I always assumed the demons left me alone because it would be faith strengthening.
I recently went to a clairvoyant and the information was remarkable. It was in the middle of the most difficult period of my leaving and i was very emotional at the time and what was said really gave me strength to get though everything. I said almost nothing so as not to lead her and had it recorded so that I could re-evaluate everything she had said.
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JW's upset grandfather left house to Df'd family member
by Chasity1 inhi guys.
my brother told me that his friends grandfather died and that the jw family members are upset that he left his house to his grandson who is df'd.
for the last few years the grandson took him to all his doctor appointments and took him grocery shopping.
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Nice to hear. I just hope the JW's don't take it to court to try to get the house off him.
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Isolated & disconnected once outside
by enosant inis this a common issue for exjws?
or do you find it easy to just get on with it?
having lost all the jw friends, you find that you can't bring yourself to let others get too close, even pushing them away (old habbit dying hard).
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When i first went to leave the org i found that i couldnt relate to anyone and that fear of isolation kept me trapped for another 10 years. Over that time I learnt to become comfortable enough with myself not to care if I have close friends or not.
I know heaps of people and always can find someone to do something with but have made sure that there is no one in my life that I can not live without, family included. It has certainly led to a somewhat insecure marriage, but you learn as a JW that anyone, family included, can desert you over a single word.