Posts by jwfacts

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Richard Dawkins defends mild pedophilia, says it does not cause lasting harm

by chrisuk in

http://www.salon.com/2013/09/10/richard_dawkins_defends_mild_pedophilia_says_it_does_not_cause_lasting_harm/.

jwfacts

Saved-JW, your answers are ideological but irrational.

The problem I have is when somebody deny's a universal moral absolute then at the same time, judges somebody elses moral opinion [be that sexual or otherwise]

The problem with such a statement is that no one knows what that universal moral absolute is. The morals of the Bible differ dramatically between books, and particularly between the Old and New Testament. Christian religions cannot agree on what that absolute moral is, and even the Watchtower changes its definitions of morals on a constant basis, despite all claiming to rely on the same basis of morals.

Without a universal absolute, we have no foundation to say that Pedophilia is or isnt wrong. Its simply an action prompted by the emotions of one or both parties involved.

Actually, science is in the best position to determine if pedophilia is wrong or not. It can study the effects and provide a reasoned answer on the damage of each particular aspect. The morality that is formed by religion is based on the ever changing beliefs of the prevailing culture at the time.

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The Deepak Chopra Random Quote Generator

by cofty in

this computer program generates random quotes that sound just like actual chopra woo woo.... what gem do you get to guide you through life today?.

i got .... "death fascinates the progressive expansion of excellence"something to think about!.

jwfacts

Thanks Focus. I am sure I have used a lot of your articles whilst doing research for jwfacts.com. You have arrived back here with a bang, and remind me of Farkel.

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The Deepak Chopra Random Quote Generator

by cofty in

this computer program generates random quotes that sound just like actual chopra woo woo.... what gem do you get to guide you through life today?.

i got .... "death fascinates the progressive expansion of excellence"something to think about!.

jwfacts

Some modifications (mainly at the data level) and one could generate "Awake!" quite readily, making about as much sense as it now does.

To make it sound like an Awake you would have to replace all the 4 syllable words with 2 syllables.

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Shouldn't the WTBTS have more than 7 million followers after 140 years of preaching?

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

after 140 years of preaching and millions of books, magazines, and tracts, all the wtbts has to show is a measly 7 million members.

the mormons, baptists, pentecostals and many other religions have more members without the preaching work.. in your opinion, is 7 million members way too many for all the odd beliefs, doctrines and practices ?

or, should be more members since they have had over 140 years of being in the religion business?.

jwfacts

Any sales organization that took 10,000 hours to make 1 sale would be out of business. There is nothing like free religious labour; inefficient but unstoppable.

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Lost and Found

by Vivere in

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well after an almost 4 year sucessful fade including a move, they found me.

i was not home at the time, but they were asking all sorts of questions about me and my family, who lives where etc.

of course it was one of the busybody families in my former congregation.

jwfacts

Saying nothing is the best policy. You cannot be disfellowshipped for being inactive, but can for apostasy, and discussing any doubts you have will earn you that label. If they come back and ask how you are going the answer is simply, "I'm fine, I will see you at a meeting when I am ready." They will ask if they can help, and just keep saying, you are fine and there is nothing you need at the moment.

They may get belligerent and say you are risking everlasting life, and how you won't see your parents in the new system. Do not fall for that trap. Just keep repeating that everything is ok. Their attitude may make you angry, and your pride may make you want to stand up for yourself, but there is nothing to gain from talking back to them, and your parents to lose.

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recent watchtower article condemning catholic mediator between men and god

by oldregretfuljwx2 in

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i'm researching for an article on religious torture, how the un condemns physical and psychological torture and how that applies to witness shunning and ran across the information below on mediatorship.

<a href="http://imgur.com/rrqt8ei"><img src="http://i.imgur.com/rrqt8ei.jpg" title="hosted by imgur.com" /></a> .

[url=http://imgur.com/rrqt8ei][img]http://i.imgur.com/rrqt8ei.jpg[/img][/url] .

jwfacts

Great find, what total hypocrisy. The following quote shows how the great crowd need to be united with the 144,000 (JW saints as it were) to benefit from the mediator.

"They recognize that they are not spiritual Israelites in the new covenant mediated by Jesus Christ, nor part of the "chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation."-1 Pet. 2:9. Yet they do benefit from the operation of the new covenant. They benefit from this just as, in ancient Israel, the "alien resident" benefited from residing in among the Israelites who were in the Law covenant.-Ex. 20:10; Lev. 19:10, 33, 34; Rev. 7:9-15. To keep in relationship with "our Savior, God," the "great crowd" needs to remain united with the remnant of spiritual Israelites." Watchtower 1979 Nov 15 p.27

I'll add this 2014 comment to jwfacts.com/watchtower/mediator.php

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July 15 Awake - strange quote and i'm not sure what else...

by Gladring in

i was trying to find the source of the michael j. tyler quote in the was it designed article in the jul 15 awake, when i came across this website.. was this posted before the magazine?

is the watchtower passing someone else's work off as their own, or the other way round?.

also, can anyone find the source of the quote?

jwfacts

Gladring, the Awake comes out a couple of months before the cover date. At the link samuelogezi has cut and pasted from the article and submitted it onto that forum. Most likely he is a JW. I wonder what the Watchtower thinks about having their work plagerised without any indication that it is from a Watchtower article. The same user has done that with a number of articles.

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Translating JWFacts to Spanish... Update?

by ILoveTTATT in

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as you all may know, it is an ongoing project to translate jwfacts to spanish.

given that there are more than 2 spanish-speaking jw's for every one that speaks english, it can be safely said that spanish is the #1 language in the jw world (even though everything is made originally in english).. the spanish-speaking jw's are harder to convince.

i attribute it almost 100% to socioeconomic factors.

jwfacts

Thanks to everyone that has offered to get involved. I am ready to put together the site, and have registered VERDADTJ.COM, but need a few more finished articles to make it worthwhile.

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What is this latest letter from the GB about?

by stuckinarut2 in

we have been told this week that all in the elder and ms body will be read a letter from the gb about "make this the greatest month of activity ever"..... has anyone else had such a letter read out in their cong / servant body?.

i presume it will be all about "recommending strongly/insisting" that all these men should pioneer for the month?.

jwfacts

I have not seen it, but they like to do a push in August to get the publisher statistics up, as it is the last month of the service year. I thought maybe they will have a big preaching campaign in September, to be the anniversary of 100 years of the invisibile rule of Christ. That would get everyone excited that Armageddon may come in October; maybe they don't want to take that risk of failure.

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July 15 Awake - strange quote and i'm not sure what else...

by Gladring in

i was trying to find the source of the michael j. tyler quote in the was it designed article in the jul 15 awake, when i came across this website.. was this posted before the magazine?

is the watchtower passing someone else's work off as their own, or the other way round?.

also, can anyone find the source of the quote?

jwfacts

It is the July issue of the Awake, not 15th. Here is the quote from page 16:

"If, as some claim, its reproductive system evolved, the gastric brooding frog would have had to make vast changes to both its physical makeup and its behavior all at once. “It is inconceivable to contemplate a slow and progressive change in its reproductive biology,” wrote scientist and evolutionist Michael J. Tyler. “The habit is totally effective or it fails completely.” The only plausible explanation, Tyler says, is “a single, huge, quantum step.” Some would say that such a quantum step is called creation."

I'm not sure it is a misquote, but rather a misunderstanding of quantum steps within evolution.